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well christmas weekend i bought two bottels of kroger brand labeled organic ketchup & mustard and i told my mom but she was like "organic please your getting ripped off" so is it just a marketing gemick or are these for real?
well christmas weekend i bought two bottels of kroger brand labeled organic ketchup & mustard and i told my mom but she was like "organic please your getting ripped off" so is it just a marketing gemick or are these for real?
Were they next to the Cruelty Free Relish?
There are indeed a lot of products with nice mark-ups and very little difference taking advantage of labels like "organic" etc. Just read the ingredients vs. a "normal" bottle and decide for yourself.
well christmas weekend i bought two bottels of kroger brand labeled organic ketchup & mustard and i told my mom but she was like "organic please your getting ripped off" so is it just a marketing gemick or are these for real?
You breath in more toxic pollutants, just walking into a grocery store, then there are in any bottle of non-organic ketchup or mustard.
Organic is a fad right now, largely driven by the media. Qualifications are inadequate and non-equal. It's a good idea, but all you're guaranteed is that you're paying a LOT more money.
well christmas weekend i bought two bottels of kroger brand labeled organic ketchup & mustard and i told my mom but she was like "organic please your getting ripped off" so is it just a marketing gemick or are these for real?
I buy organic ketchup just for the fact that it doesn't have high-fructose corn syrup in it. That's enough of a reason for me.
You breath in more toxic pollutants, just walking into a grocery store, then there are in any bottle of non-organic ketchup or mustard.
First off, when I choose to buy something like organic ketchup, I'm not thinking about toxins in the food, but the toxins in the soil which ultimately sterilize it making our vanishing arable soil useless for food production and the toxins in the groundwater that contribute to higher disease rates in the communities where the farming takes place and the pollution of the nearby bodies of water that are affecting marine and lake ecosystems reducing the amount of healthy fishing grounds.
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Organic is a fad right now, largely driven by the media.
I agree that the marketing of organics is fad driven, but since organic farming was the norm from the beginning of incipient agriculture about 9,000 years ago until about 60 years ago, I would hardly say that organic farming is a fad. The pyramids of Egypt, The Roman Empire, The age of exploration, The British Empire, and the rise of the United States were all driven by a foundation of an economy based in sustainable organic agriculture.
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Qualifications are inadequate and non-equal. It's a good idea, but all you're guaranteed is that you're paying a LOT more money.
Qualifications are variable and often arbitrary, but their bottom line is that they are difficult to qualify for. A lot of organic stuff is way more expensive because few farmers produce it. For example, I live in New Mexico and my grocery store only carries organic bell peppers grown in Holland a nation perhaps 10,000 miles away and FAR wealthier than my local community. On the other hand there is an organic CSA with a farm about 5 miles from my house that provides me with organic bell peppers for less than the cost of conventionally grown bell peppers. Also, organic ketchup casts about 30 cents more a bottle than the regular kind. A small price in my opinion that will drive producers to seek more conscious ways of growing food.
First off, when I choose to buy something like organic ketchup, I'm not thinking about toxins in the food, but the toxins in the soil which ultimately sterilize it making our vanishing arable soil useless for food production and the toxins in the groundwater that contribute to higher disease rates in the communities where the farming takes place and the pollution of the nearby bodies of water that are affecting marine and lake ecosystems reducing the amount of healthy fishing grounds.
I agree that the marketing of organics is fad driven, but since organic farming was the norm from the beginning of incipient agriculture about 9,000 years ago until about 60 years ago, I would hardly say that organic farming is a fad. The pyramids of Egypt, The Roman Empire, The age of exploration, The British Empire, and the rise of the United States were all driven by a foundation of an economy based in sustainable organic agriculture.
Qualifications are variable and often arbitrary, but their bottom line is that they are difficult to qualify for. A lot of organic stuff is way more expensive because few farmers produce it. For example, I live in New Mexico and my grocery store only carries organic bell peppers grown in Holland a nation perhaps 10,000 miles away and FAR wealthier than my local community. On the other hand there is an organic CSA with a farm about 5 miles from my house that provides me with organic bell peppers for less than the cost of conventionally grown bell peppers. Also, organic ketchup casts about 30 cents more a bottle than the regular kind. A small price in my opinion that will drive producers to seek more conscious ways of growing food.
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You are using some very, very "iffy" information regarding the soil that is supposedly being destroyed by non-organic farming. The truth is, Organic Farming is often FAR more destructive to the farm ground than non-organic.
Also, I'm sitting here scratching my head about Organic Bell Peppers that are imported to New Mexico from Holland. How can that possibly be good for the environment?
On the other hand, it's really great that you have an organic farm 5 miles from your house. Good for them and good for you!
------" sterilize it making our vanishing arable soils useless for food production "---
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yet, after only 3 years those same soils are eligible to be certified organic and you will pay top dollar buying organic food grown on those ruined soils .
I am currently testing a few recipes I've found online to find my ideal ketchup recipe. Until recently, I hadn't focused on the fact that my preferred ketchup used high fructose corn syrup (which I've been trying to eliminate from my diet).
So far, everything I make from scratch tastes far different and better than what I used to buy pre-made at the grocery store. I imagine ketchup will be the same deal, and as with other things, I can exert more control over what goes into my finished product.
Just ask you mom "why" its a rip off. If she can't explain it to you in numbers and sourced facts she is just flapping her gums. That corn syrup is made from Monsanto's corn. That is enough of a reason for me to buy ANYTHING but regular with corn syrup. Research on monsanto's ways. Read about "starseed" corn. Then talk to your mom about that.
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