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I'm an outsider, but considering the Triad's slower growth than the Triangle or Charlotte, I don't see any Triad city getting anything more than 10 stories in the near future, demand doesn't seem to be especially high and your downtowns have plenty of room for mid/low rise infill developments for the near future. I mean Raleigh only has five high-rises in the works (SkyHouse (22fl), North Hills Tower II, (19fl), Edison Office (20fl 310ft), Charter Square South Tower (11fl 215ft) and Charter Square North Tower (previously 22fl, but it's being redesigned)). The whole of NC is in a skyscraper slump with the exception of a few projects in Charlotte. But I hope I'm wrong, because skyscrapers are a hobby of mine.
I'm an outsider, but considering the Triad's slower growth than the Triangle or Charlotte, I don't see any Triad city getting anything more than 10 stories in the near future, demand doesn't seem to be especially high and your downtowns have plenty of room for mid/low rise infill developments for the near future. I mean Raleigh only has five high-rises in the works (SkyHouse (22fl), North Hills Tower II, (19fl), Edison Office (20fl 310ft), Charter Square South Tower (11fl 215ft) and Charter Square North Tower (previously 22fl, but it's being redesigned)). The whole of NC is in a skyscraper slump with the exception of a few projects in Charlotte. But I hope I'm wrong, because skyscrapers are a hobby of mine.
Wouldn't you say that most of the US has been in a bit of a skyscraper slump since '08?
... wow, do you have any renderings? also poor HP... was that seriously so bad that they had to scrap the entire project..
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I'll see what I can dig up.
Did a little digging around and couldn't turn anything up. If I remember correctly the death of the project was quiet, unlike it's announcement which made news all over the area. Again, if memory serves me correct the building is located on the SW corner of S Hamilton/ E Green.
Well if a person considers a skyscraper of at least 10 stories, Greensboro may get the next one if you count the planned Wyndham hotel which is proposed to be at least 12 stories. The definition of a skyscraper can be different from city to city. I think the first skyscraper, which was built in Chicago was around 10 stories. In terms of office towers, I don't see a lot of growth in that area for Winston-Salem considering much of the push for office space is going into the Innovation Quarter which consists of low and mid-rises. Downtown Greensboro is going to struggle as well getting new office towers. City leaders still haven't figured out how to make companies and office developers choose downtown over other areas of the city. The problem is the costs associated with building downtown and parking challenges. Its still much cheaper to build outward as oppose to upward and city leaders need to start some kind of incentive program which will level the playing field. But to be honest there isn't a big demand for a lot of office space in either city right now. Its been years since either city has seen a new office tower.
Well if a person considers a skyscraper of at least 10 stories, Greensboro may get the next one if you count the planned Wyndham hotel which is proposed to be at least 12 stories. The definition of a skyscraper can be different from city to city. I think the first skyscraper, which was built in Chicago was around 10 stories. In terms of office towers, I don't see a lot of growth in that area for Winston-Salem considering much of the push for office space is going into the Innovation Quarter which consists of low and mid-rises. Downtown Greensboro is going to struggle as well getting new office towers. City leaders still haven't figured out how to make companies and office developers choose downtown over other areas of the city. The problem is the costs associated with building downtown and parking challenges. Its still much cheaper to build outward as oppose to upward and city leaders need to start some kind of incentive program which will level the playing field. But to be honest there isn't a big demand for a lot of office space in either city right now. Its been years since either city has seen a new office tower.
The most recent new office building in downtown Winston (that leaps to mind) is toward West End on 4th and Broad. Nice little 4 story building that provides nice infill. I see both cities growing like that. Again, I don't know why local govt would incentivize vertical growth when so much surface area still exists in both cities.
The most recent new office building in downtown Winston (that leaps to mind) is toward West End on 4th and Broad. Nice little 4 story building that provides nice infill. I see both cities growing like that. Again, I don't know why local govt would incentivize vertical growth when so much surface area still exists in both cities.
<snort> Those aren't trees, more like twigs. I'm talking about old growth, big ass trees that make you grumble and curse during raking season. Not little saplings that you can pack the fall foliage in a sandwich bag.
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