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Old 07-18-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Based on this there were about 17k commuting to the 3 main Triangle counties and about 10K traveling to the 2 main Triad counties.

Those numbers are just going up. Sure Greensboro has more influence on Alamance than Durham but regionally, the job numbers are highly in favor of the Triangle. …

Highly on favor. The Triad market pales in comparison to the Triangle market in terms of the 3Vs…variety, volume and value (earning potential) of jobs. And I’m not even talking about the highly skilled, STEM and STEM type positions.
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Old 07-18-2023, 11:48 AM
 
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Yea Greensboro is lacking in the 3.. especially value.. all we getting are warehouse labor jobs which are revolving doors..
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Old 07-18-2023, 01:49 PM
 
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Yea Greensboro is lacking in the 3.. especially value.. all we getting are warehouse labor jobs which are revolving doors..
Greensboro is now getting advanced manufacturing jobs (Boom, Honda Jet, Toyota etc) which pay very well. It seems that the momentum has shifted from Winston Salem to Greensboro in terms of high quality job gains. The Innovation Quarter has been phenomenal for WS, but the "low hanging fruit" is no longer there, in terms of having an inventory of old tobacco buildings to renovate. Plus, the new innovation district in Charlotte is likely shifting some new development in that direction.

The PTI Megasite will continue to drive quality gob gains in the future.
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Old 07-18-2023, 04:11 PM
 
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Greensboro is now getting advanced manufacturing jobs (Boom, Honda Jet, Toyota etc) which pay very well. It seems that the momentum has shifted from Winston Salem to Greensboro in terms of high quality job gains. The Innovation Quarter has been phenomenal for WS, but the "low hanging fruit" is no longer there, in terms of having an inventory of old tobacco buildings to renovate. Plus, the new innovation district in Charlotte is likely shifting some new development in that direction.

The PTI Megasite will continue to drive quality gob gains in the future.
The innovation quarter is great for the local Winston-Salem economy and its downtown but has not panned out as being a regional high paying job incubator. Mainly because RTP beat the city to it 3 decades earlier. If the Triad is going compete with the two larger metros in the state it has to have its own identity and it appears the Triad and in particularly Greensboro has gained some traction there. It's becoming clear that aerospace and advanced manufacturing is the key to the Triad's future. PTI will become the state's aerospace hub which will lead to thousands of high paying jobs directly from these aerospace companies as well as spinoff jobs. PTI is also on track in becoming a major "aerotropolis" in the Southeastern United States. But Winston-Salem did not make a mistake with developing its Innovation Quarter because ultimately it will lead to more white collar jobs coming to the city.

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Old 07-19-2023, 06:48 AM
 
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The innovation quarter is great for the local Winston-Salem economy and its downtown but has not panned out as being a regional high paying job incubator. Mainly because RTP beat the city to it 3 decades earlier. If the Triad is going compete with the two larger metros in the state it has to have its own identity and it appears the Triad and in particularly Greensboro has gained some traction there. It's becoming clear that aerospace and advanced manufacturing is the key to the Triad's future. PTI will become the state's aerospace hub which will lead to thousands of high paying jobs directly from these aerospace companies as well as spinoff jobs. PTI is also on track in becoming a major "aerotropolis" in the Southeastern United States. But Winston-Salem did not make a mistake with developing its Innovation Quarter because ultimately it will lead to more white collar jobs coming to the city.
Transforming the warehouse district from the tobacco era was necessary, its just what is it going to be used for. With Novant's growth and headquarters, it seems Winston Salem could focus on healthcare for its region as well as other regions it serves.

RTP is going to lead the State in research, to the point where ECU's Millennial campus is having a tough time getting off the ground. I think ECU will find its focus in Eastern NC in terms of research but it will take time. Healthcare and training has been a solid source of jobs for Greenville. Its all about finding your niche as a community. Eastern NC has the State's huge military presence and the VA system has been expanding because of it. Charlotte is a major East Coast banking center.

Back to Burlington, it appears to me that Burlington is already a bedroom community to both the Triad and Triangle, has a University near it and major interstate access going both directions. All of those apartments going up along I-40/I-85 is for a reason. The future is bright there if they try to check all of the boxes in terms of QOL.
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Old 07-19-2023, 12:37 PM
 
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Yea Greensboro is lacking in the 3.. especially value.. all we getting are warehouse labor jobs which are revolving doors..
Exactly.
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Greensboro is now getting advanced manufacturing jobs (Boom, Honda Jet, Toyota etc) which pay very well. It seems that the momentum has shifted from Winston Salem to Greensboro in terms of high quality job gains. The Innovation Quarter has been phenomenal for WS, but the "low hanging fruit" is no longer there, in terms of having an inventory of old tobacco buildings to renovate. Plus, the new innovation district in Charlotte is likely shifting some new development in that direction.

The PTI Megasite will continue to drive quality gob gains in the future.
Yeah that JUST started happening in Greensboro but it’s a good sign.

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…the Triad and in particularly Greensboro has gained some traction there. It's becoming clear that aerospace and advanced manufacturing is the key to the Triad's future. PTI will become the state's aerospace hub which will lead to thousands of high paying jobs directly from these aerospace companies as well as spinoff jobs. PTI is also on track in becoming a major "aerotropolis" in the Southeastern United States. But Winston-Salem did not make a mistake with developing its Innovation Quarter because ultimately it will lead to more white collar jobs coming to the city.

Greensboro, and ultimately the Triad, needs the underlined to happen so bad. The momentum is beginning to form so hopefully it’ll continue. It’s gonna be a slow burn more than likely. We might all be seniors or at least senior discount eligible by the time everything is really solidified. And yes, Winston needed to gamble a little by having the audacity to create the Innovation Quarter. It’s kinda one of the main potential white collar engines in the city.

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…Back to Burlington, it appears to me that Burlington is already a bedroom community to both the Triad and Triangle, has a University near it and major interstate access going both directions. All of those apartments going up along I-40/I-85 is for a reason. The future is bright there if they try to check all of the boxes in terms of QOL.
What do you think this means for future affordability in Burlington? Overall COL? Will it go the usual way, and a lot of its “natives” end up priced out?
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:54 PM
 
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Exactly.

Yeah that JUST started happening in Greensboro but it’s a good sign.

Greensboro, and ultimately the Triad, needs the underlined to happen so bad. The momentum is beginning to form so hopefully it’ll continue. It’s gonna be a slow burn more than likely. We might all be seniors or at least senior discount eligible by the time everything is really solidified. And yes, Winston needed to gamble a little by having the audacity to create the Innovation Quarter. It’s kinda one of the main potential white collar engines in the city.

What do you think this means for future affordability in Burlington? Overall COL? Will it go the usual way, and a lot of its “natives” end up priced out?
Huh?
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:46 AM
 
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Huh?
Uh oh … we got the infamous one word “huh” question mark post, yall.

I’ll make some assumptions just to save time … so either you’re already a senior citizen and/or you think the who aerospace initiative in GSO/PTI has already fully materialized and/or you think it won’t take long to fully materialize…
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:21 PM
 
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I’ll make some assumptions just to save time …
Please don't.

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so either you’re already a senior citizen and/or you think the who aerospace initiative in GSO/PTI has already fully materialized
Don't know.
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Old 11-29-2023, 11:49 AM
 
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I still can't believe Alamance is not part of the Greensboro MSA
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