Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Celebrating Memorial Day!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Grief and Mourning
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-06-2016, 09:22 AM
 
23,590 posts, read 70,367,145 times
Reputation: 49226

Advertisements

Laws will vary in each state. A lot of what is in posts #18 and #26 are correct. In general, small accounts can be made "payable upon death to" and avoid probate. Property ownership can pass through "right of survival." Autos can be titled as "Joe Blow OR Mary Blow" to pass without probate. Insurance polices do not pass through probate. Trusts are best discussed with an attorney familiar with them.

If the person does not have significant assets it may be possible to avoid probate and the associated costs altogether. Find out what the statutory exemption is for family. A simple will that directs for cremation and transfer of all assets to the closest relative avoids the "intestate" statutes AND since costs of burial or cremation are prioritized in any estate disbursements, can limit claims from creditors.

Typically, death isn't sudden, but a medical condition will bring a person to an emergency room or hospital, where all sorts of medical tests and treatments and consultations occur. Even with health insurance, those can run into thousands of dollars. Once the estate of the deceased runs out of money, those are uncollectable and NOT the responsibility of the survivors or family. A copy of the death certificate to the creditor closes the account. Be aware that medical billing can go on for a year or more, and from people you have never seen or heard of, like radiologists who interpret X-rays off-site.

Rules on body disposal vary. In general, a mortuary will come and collect for cremation or burial, but they will have to be paid. That debt is incurred by the survivors and not the deceased. If the body died of a communicable disease, public safety protocols might overrule family burials. Burial in the backyard may still be allowed in the rural areas of the countries, but most municipality zoning laws will end up prohibiting it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-06-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
17,156 posts, read 12,953,220 times
Reputation: 33179
Quote:
Originally Posted by robertpasa View Post
Does anyone know for sure what to do? Calling 911 seems like it's only for emergencies and not death by natural causes.

Related question: is there always a death certificate when somebody dies or is it just in an accident or crime?

If you are to inherit something from a parent do you show the death cert. to the bank?

What do people generally use a death cert. for, if it's death from natural causes?
Great point. 911 is an emergency number only. I'm not sure why so many people think they should call that number for nonemergency things. There would be a death certificate given by a coroner who may or may not be a medical doctor, but no autopsy in natural deaths in most cases.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: League City, Texas
2,919 posts, read 5,949,008 times
Reputation: 6260
Quote:
Originally Posted by f5fstop View Post
Call the local police via the normal phone line if the person is dead and you know that for sure. The 911 line is for emergencies where a life is in danger, or a house is burning, etc. If a person is dead of natural causes, a few minutes will not matter.
I agree--

OP--you can have the body "donated to science". That would relieve you of any charges for disposition of the body. In some instances they do return cremains to the next of kin, but you could always request this not be done. I've had in-laws that actually did this, & it was such a relief for them not to go through all the funereal expenses.

You must get copies of the death certificate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
7,372 posts, read 16,009,038 times
Reputation: 11867
Bury them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles>Little Rock>Houston>Little Rock
6,489 posts, read 8,809,581 times
Reputation: 17514
My mother died at home. Both the non-emergency police # and the funeral home were called.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 06:35 PM
 
9,446 posts, read 6,573,187 times
Reputation: 18898
Quote:
Originally Posted by robertpasa View Post
How much do the paramedics charge for taking the body away? I'm not saying I would try to get out of it.

Don't call 911 or paramedics. Call the Police and they will come and check for foul play and call the coroner. You should have a mortuary chosen beforehand, as they will probably just have the mortuary pick up the body if there are no signs of foul play. I have done this twice.

Last edited by Harpaint; 02-06-2016 at 06:53 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
7,705 posts, read 5,448,290 times
Reputation: 16224
Quote:
Originally Posted by robertpasa View Post
What should you do, if a parent dies in your own home, from natural causes?

Are you required to call the police? (I live in California, if that matters.)
If so, do they give you a form or something?

If you don't want to keep the body for burial or cremation (or other religious or legal reasons), who do you call to move the body away?

Thanks. This has not happened to me but i might, one day.
I also live in California. I have not experienced a death in my home; however, I want to inform you that if you sell your home in the next three years you are legally required to disclose (on a form) that there has been a death in the home, and if beyond the three years someone specifically asks you if there has been a death in the home (unlikely that they will ask), then you are still required to tell them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 07:55 PM
 
9,446 posts, read 6,573,187 times
Reputation: 18898
If the deceased has life insurance, the company will want a copy of the death certificate sent to them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Traveling
7,038 posts, read 6,288,650 times
Reputation: 14713
My son was in an assisted living apartment where he was required to report to the nurses desk for his meds. When he didn't come to the nurses desk to get them, they called the police. He was declared deceased & went to the county morgue. We then had to pay for cremation (or a funeral, if we'd chosen burial) before his body was released to the Cremation Society. Fyi.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2016, 11:36 PM
 
Location: U.S. Pacific Northwest
251 posts, read 203,747 times
Reputation: 596
Default When Parents Die book

On the self-care side as well as the practical, the book When Parents Die was very helpful to me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Grief and Mourning

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top