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Then he's not just selling things he doesn't need if hes concerened with profit.
Mike may be confused, a turret isn't really a progressive. Kinda half way but mostly like a single stage.
It allows you to put all the dies for a given caliber on one plate so you can do the steps one after another without swapping dies, you just rotate the plate to the next die, but every stroke only performs one operation. A progressive performs all steps with each stroke, so you are sizing one case, priming one case, dropping a charge in one case & seating a bullet in another, every time you operate the lever. In other words after 4 strokes each stroke produces one complete round of ammunition.
I'm thinking about a turret myself but its hard to justify since I use two single stages at once. I resize in one and neck expand in the other first & then seat and crimp. But a turret has the extra benefit that you can get extra plates so you dont need to screw the dies in & out too. You can set up a plate for instance with 357 dies and another with 44 dies & only swap the plates to change from one caliber to another. I need to screw in my dies individually, not a very big deal to me but it would certainly be convenient to not have to.
Then he's not just selling things he doesn't need if hes concerened with profit.
Mike may be confused, a turret isn't really a progressive. Kinda half way but mostly like a single stage.
It allows you to put all the dies for a given caliber on one plate so you can do the steps one after another without swapping dies, you just rotate the plate to the next die, but every stroke only performs one operation. A progressive performs all steps with each stroke, so you are sizing one case, priming one case, dropping a charge in one case & seating a bullet in another, every time you operate the lever. In other words after 4 strokes each stroke produces one complete round of ammunition.
I'm thinking about a turret myself but its hard to justify since I use two single stages at once. I resize in one and neck expand in the other first & then seat and crimp. But a turret has the extra benefit that you can get extra plates so you dont need to screw the dies in & out too. You can set up a plate for instance with 357 dies and another with 44 dies & only swap the plates to change from one caliber to another. I need to screw in my dies individually, not a very big deal to me but it would certainly be convenient to not have to.
Anyway I still think thats too much money.
Thats what bothered me....he said he needs to make a proffit....Oh heck...I still don't know....
Thats said the standard one is probably good enough to last a lifetime. If you start loading any big rifle calibers you'll probably end up wanting a strong O press anyway. Resizing put more strain on the press than anything else and is what got me to but the classic cast O press. I was forming brass from one caliber to another because I couldn't find brass for an old rifle I bought and the strain was torquing my alloy press.
Then he's not just selling things he doesn't need if hes concerened with profit.
Mike may be confused, a turret isn't really a progressive. Kinda half way but mostly like a single stage.
It allows you to put all the dies for a given caliber on one plate so you can do the steps one after another without swapping dies, you just rotate the plate to the next die, but every stroke only performs one operation. A progressive performs all steps with each stroke, so you are sizing one case, priming one case, dropping a charge in one case & seating a bullet in another, every time you operate the lever. In other words after 4 strokes each stroke produces one complete round of ammunition.
I'm thinking about a turret myself but its hard to justify since I use two single stages at once. I resize in one and neck expand in the other first & then seat and crimp. But a turret has the extra benefit that you can get extra plates so you dont need to screw the dies in & out too. You can set up a plate for instance with 357 dies and another with 44 dies & only swap the plates to change from one caliber to another. I need to screw in my dies individually, not a very big deal to me but it would certainly be convenient to not have to.
Anyway I still think thats too much money.
Well, it's been a while since I looked at a Lee Turret, and I've known of it since I started reloading in early 1986, and I always thought it was a progressive press. Thanks for the clarification.
ChuckSnee, I agree with Tin Knocker's assessment on how much money he wants for it is about right, try offering him $200.
Well, it's been a while since I looked at a Lee Turret, and I've known of it since I started reloading in early 1986, and I always thought it was a progressive press. Thanks for the clarification.
ChuckSnee, I agree with Tin Knocker's assessment on how much money he wants for it is about right, try offering him $200.
That's about a fair price, not a real good price, but OK. I would still have concerns about the opened powder cans.The Lee turret is available new for way less than $200. A quick Google search showed Midway for example asking like $80. This makes the guy a knucklehead IMHO, and I wouldn't buy an opened can of powder from someone I thought was a knucklehead. The one I have BTW is the old 3-hole, now they make a 4-hole. In my experience it's a good press, like I have said it's not a work of art like an RCBS, Redding, or Dillon, but it's a lot cheaper than they are, works as well or better depending on what you want to do.
If it were me, I would start with a single stage press.
I don't know why people like to push beginners unto advanced slopes ....and four stage presses. Thats my .02.
May seem simple to an experienced loader...which the OP is not. Loading mistakes can be nasty.
I wouldn't suggest a *progressive* for a first-timer, but the Lee Turret works very much like a MEC shotshell loader (the garden variety one) - you take one empty at a time and process it into a loaded round. Using a single-station press you actually IMHO have more opportunity to make a mistake, particularly when charging powder. It's just personal preference, I guess, but I like making one loaded round at a time better than processing 50 or 100 brass empties into loaded rounds one step at a time. FWIW I really like Lee's hand-held priming tool. The only thing I don't like about my Dillon is having to charge primer tubes, before I can load.
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