Need some info to refute some anti-gun folks in my town (cheap, cost)
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Zimmerman was extremely borderline, personally I think he should have lost. He followed the guy after being told by the police not to, then approached him, basically initiated a fight then shot the guy. That's not self defense, even if once the encounter went down he became in fear for his life (because he's a fat weak dude who can't fight yet got himself into one anyway), self defense is keeping your distance and waiting for the police and not creating a situation where fear for your life would ever show up. He was lucky.
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You have all the facts wrong on the case. Not to hijack but he didn't follow the guy after talking to dispatch. He didn't approach or initiate the fight.
Martin approached him. Martin suckered punched him.
Too many just took Nbc and the bias medias blather as the truth.
That advice if taken probably agitates everyone, including the other gun owners. Just because the gun control people say gun owners are nuts doesn't mean some gun owners are not nuts.
For sure, anyone considering the issue that hasn't made up their mind probably would after that. People aren't born believing in the Constitution, they are educated about it. If that is part of their education I'm not thinking they'd be persuaded to think the braggart anyone to emulate.
Thinking gun control advocates are idiots is a big mistake. If they are idiots, they seem to have accomplished quite a bit, even if misguided.
Like Ted Nugent and Wayne a good guy with a gun. LOL Gun people are agitated about everything. Look at your posts.
Like Ted Nugent and Wayne a good guy with a gun. LOL Gun people are agitated about everything. Look at your posts.
gun people are agitated because fellow citizens and politicians alike are trying to strip them of their right to bear arms. How about I try and strip you of your right to free speech, lets see how you feel about that. It also agitates us because we understand the importance of the 2nd amendment to the rest of the bill of rights and constitution in general.
I can remember in Florida in the 80s when rape went up in I believe Jacksonville, many women went out and flooded the gun stores buying hand guns, and taking classes, so much it was on the news. Rape went down a lot, if I remember is was in the 90 percent. Then after Florida passed shall issue, there was a rash of robbery on tourists who were from out of country. It was found that the perps knew these people would not have a gun but if they robbed a Florida resident it was a crap shoot if they had a gun. Your nut bar Watch idiots do not know anything of guns,and what they do to stop crime. The big things is I would not waste my time arguing with them. Its like arguing with a christian if your an atheist. No amount of evidence is going to change a mind that knows the facts as they want to believe them. I would put up my NRA sticker and brag about going to the range and practicing. I would get a CCW and talk about it. Put up pro gun stickers, posters what ever you can do, it will eat at them like crazy. What ever you do don't change to shut up these idiots. agitate agitate agitate.
Only take this advice if you want to be childish.......
Some of us are actually adults and want to act in a mature and responsible manner saxondale.
I only had a chance to skim this thread. But if your neighbors are really anti-gun, then they won't mind this sign.
A sign like that is just childish if you ask me. For one, you are going to draw all kinds of unwanted attention to yourself from many other people, including those who you have to live next to and possibly from LE. For two, you would potentialy be putting your neighbors at a higher risk of being victimized. Why would you want to do that?
If I saw a house with a sign like that in the yard, I would assume that the owner must truly be a nut, or at least a very immature individual.
Like I said, I have no real intention of advertising that own guns, mostly because I don't really like any kinds of signs or bumper stickers, no matter what they say. My big issue was these big-mouths saying that it would "invite" crime into our town. My conclusion after reading all that everyone posted is that the presence of guns can be a tempting target to some criminals, but in general, having guns still makes me safer, especially now that we have a wave of burglaries that are happening when the homeowners are home. Also, if I were to somehow "broadcast" that I am armed, it might make the criminal choose my neighbors instead, who are openly unarmed.
The neighbors' anti-sticker-and-sign advocacy is likely at least partly about me making myself a "tougher target" to criminals, who will then move on to the neighbors' houses instead of mine. My house is well-lit, always locked, alarmed, my gates and shed are locked, and I have crazy-a$$ dogs barking at the slightest sound. A criminal looking at my house will probably consider me too much trouble. Can they break in if they really want to? Of course. But my house would be more work, more effort than the next house, and most criminals don't have a great work ethic.
I really believe in the "tough target" theory by JJ Bittenbinder. You can't make yourself and your home completely safe from crime, but you can make yourself and your home just too darned much trouble to a criminal, who will move on to the next person or house that's easier.
We also have lots of people in my town who, inexplicably, leave their vehicles unlocked. I know, ridiculous, right? The "police blotter" week after week shows "theft from auto" reports, and in more than half the cases, it says the cars were unlocked. People at the town watch meeting were vocal about it being their "right" to leave their cars unlocked, and how we can't "blame the victim." I said "Well, it certainly is your right, so keep on leaving your car unlocked, in a poorly lit area, with valuables visible inside. I'll keep my car empty, locked, and under my floodlight. The criminals will pass by my car and choose yours." I think the same folks who took offense to that were the same ones who took offence to the residents who put NRA stickers on their house windows and car windows. It's like they want the crime in my town spread evenly and "fairly" among all the residents.
A sign like that is just childish if you ask me. For one, you are going to draw all kinds of unwanted attention to yourself from many other people, including those who you have to live next to and possibly from LE. For two, you would potentialy be putting your neighbors at a higher risk of being victimized. Why would you want to do that?
If I saw a house with a sign like that in the yard, I would assume that the owner must truly be a nut, or at least a very immature individual.
I included that picture as a little bit of humor in an otherwise serious thread. Would I actually put it up in my yard? No. If my neighbor was publicly anti-gun, I would bring it to the next HOA meeting and ask to put it up just to see what his reaction would be.
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Gun people are agitated about everything. Look at your posts.
