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I thought we were discussing this within the context of government purchase of select fire weapons. The Mini-14 was good enough for the NYPD's Emergency Services Units until they switched to the M-4 which I doubt is less expensive even on a government contract.
NYPD shouldn't be used as a model for a darn thing. They used FMJ's until "recently" for crying out loud. They are so far behind the knowledge/proven fact curve that it's pathetic. They are probably one of the most anti-officer police-dept's there is. Look at the news. NOPE! Would NOT piggyback on their officer-involved decisions!
Without the French the war that won our independence may not have been won. I think the French military bashing is not warranted. Yes their leadership was poor during world war 2 but the soldiers fought. Look at Dunkirk and the delaying action.
Concerning the alleged accuracy problems of the Mini-14....
It depends entirely on what your standards are.
If you are satisfied with 3-5" groups this is a rifle for you.
Typically, they are at least as accurate as most "run of the mill" A.K.'s.
Hell, my 580-series Mini couldn't get a 3-5" group at 50 yards, much less 100; even my cheap AK does better than that!!! The best thing I can say about the Mini is that it was always 100% reliable. The thing that finally drove me to sell it was that it was a real PITA to remove the bolt for cleaning. I don't miss the rifle at all; in fact, I replaced it with a Ruger AR-556, which is a much better weapon IMO.
Trying to remember the NFA laws, but I don't think there is any way that those could ever make it onto the registry.
Pre-1986 full auto or select fire can be acquired via the trust stamp from the BATFE, IIRC. (at least those of Ruger manufacture - the French produced ones most likely not)
I may be wrong, but the tougher thing would be to get them re-imported legally.
But I'd rather just get along with my original semiauto Ranch Rifle.
No need for me to burn the .223 up any faster @ 30 cents a round.
Hell, my 580-series Mini couldn't get a 3-5" group at 50 yards, much less 100; even my cheap AK does better than that!!! The best thing I can say about the Mini is that it was always 100% reliable. The thing that finally drove me to sell it was that it was a real PITA to remove the bolt for cleaning. I don't miss the rifle at all; in fact, I replaced it with a Ruger AR-556, which is a much better weapon IMO.
I would not dare say you are wrong.....
Perhaps there was another issue at work on your rifle.
The accuracy (or lack there of), is not consistent with my experience over at least 5 rifles owned by me or my friends.
None were match grade... But, all could hold a halfway decent group (my reported 3-5") at 100 yards or more.
Did you ever look more deeply, such as a mechanical issues, or ammunition?
Pre-1986 full auto or select fire can be acquired via the trust stamp from the BATFE, IIRC. (at least those of Ruger manufacture - the French produced ones most likely not)
I may be wrong, but the tougher thing would be to get them re-imported legally.
But I'd rather just get along with my original semiauto Ranch Rifle.
No need for me to burn the .223 up any faster @ 30 cents a round.
That would be the issue. Pretty sure it can't be done.
Did you ever look more deeply, such as a mechanical issues, or ammunition?
I put about 2000 rounds through it and tried a variety of ammo; the brand, bullet weight or type of projectile made little difference. I suppose there could have been some sort of defect with my rifle, but there is a pretty good body of anecdotal information on Mini-14s (prior to the 580 series and to a lesser extent within the 580 series), that would indicate that my experience was not out of the ordinary.
I thought we were discussing this within the context of government purchase of select fire weapons. The Mini-14 was good enough for the NYPD's Emergency Services Units until they switched to the M-4 which I doubt is less expensive even on a government contract.
I guess because the NYPD chose it makes it a good rifle? It was most likely a decision made between cost and effectiveness. When they crossed the two the mini 14 was the closest " adequate" rifle they could get.
There are better rifles for the same or just a bit more money. Hell I would take a FN-FAL or a Springfield.
A good bean counter would be able to crunch the supplier.
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