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Old 03-24-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: WMHT
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There is no maximum barrel length for shockwave to qualify as a "firearm" under Federal law.

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There's nothing wrong with adding length.
You can't with shockwave, it is a criminal offense
Citation needed.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:40 PM
 
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There is no maximum barrel length for shockwave to qualify as a "firearm" under Federal law.


Citation needed.
Maybe I'm wrong. I heard this in couple of youtube videos.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Talking At least the "firearm" designation for shotgun-like weapons is less confusing that the whole "shouldering a brace" thing

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Maybe I'm wrong. I heard this in couple of youtube videos.
That I can see -- the wording of the ATF letters about the Shockwave-style "firearms" is the root cause of the misapprehension.

The manufacturers don't help matters any with their black box warnings about how modifications (e.g. done in the wrong order) might be unlawful.
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Old 03-25-2020, 04:52 PM
 
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That I can see -- the wording of the ATF letters about the Shockwave-style "firearms" is the root cause of the misapprehension.

The manufacturers don't help matters any with their black box warnings about how modifications (e.g. done in the wrong order) might be unlawful.
A letter helps but the general consensus I gather from other gun forums is that it's left ambiguous on purpose. i.e. - how many firearms do you need to sell as a private citizen before you need a full FFL license? No one knows. It's subject to individual interpretation. It also encourages private owners to "err on the side of caution".
That could be good or bad. Certainly the laws need to have some flexibility to fit individual circumstances, but it's also subject to abuse by the government.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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There's nothing wrong with adding length.
That's what she said.
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:14 PM
 
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lol
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Yeah shoot the shockwave and let us know how the recoil goes?
I've got a mossberg 500 with pistol grip. I have shot it one handed many times with no problem. It's a non-issue.
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Old 03-27-2020, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I've got a mossberg 500 with pistol grip. I have shot it one handed many times with no problem. It's a non-issue.
500 12ga with 00buck one handed with a pistol grip? Non issue?

Oh okay.. I shoot it from an autoloader and it kicks like a Jersey mule. I guess you have the hand of God.
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