Is Norfolk or Virginia Beach Gay friendly? (Hampton: fit in, 2014)

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by Mtnluver8956

Well this job is offering me in the 55K-65K range and its quite a pay raise from where im at now. At a dead-end job now, so this job would jump start my career. I'm just curious about the general gay scene. Are the gays more conservative, liberal, or in-between. I know charlotte, gays are more liberal.

I see. I'm not in the scene I wouldn't know. Maybe someone will chime in. I'm curious though, if the situation (with the community) is better there is it worth staying there when you can do better here? Money isn't everything, and there are things that money can't buy. If you're asking if this place is more repressive than Charlotte, in general, some people would say that it is, if you're asking about the gay community here, as opposed to our opinions or interactions with the community, that is an entirely different question I'm not qualified to answer.

Although I do think that what Coconut was saying earlier about the festivals may have better answered your question that assertion may be superficial. It's like equivocating the fact that there isn't a lot with respect to the African American community going on, celebratory, to suggest that this isn't a great place for African Americans or perhaps if there were it wouldn't mean anything because it's only for SOME African Americans. But isn't that always the case? I wouldn't read too much into that, if that's where you were coming from.

[Coconut1]

I would not leave Charlotte for HR. The scene is worse, and the people saying VA is more "northern" than Charlotte have no idea what they're talking about.

The pay at $60 to $65 would be decent, but again, is there any upward potential after that?

Also, what's your industry? Have you considered looking at other large metros? From a hiring managers prospective, seeing somebody move from a larger metro to a smaller metro (with some exceptions) is viewed as a lesser job, no matter the title. You're better off being a small fish in a big pond than a big fish in a small pond. If you were close to retirement I would have a different answer for you, but at 25 you need to look long term. For example, if you were in finance in Charlotte, you need to look to DC, Chicago, San Fran, or New York. Tourism, go to New York, Miami, or Las Vegas. Etc, etc.

[Mtnluver8956]

Originally Posted by Coconut1

I would not leave Charlotte for HR. The scene is worse, and the people saying VA is more "northern" than Charlotte have no idea what they're talking about.

The pay at $60 to $65 would be decent, but again, is there any upward potential after that?

Also, what's your industry? Have you considered looking at other large metros? From a hiring managers prospective, seeing somebody move from a larger metro to a smaller metro (with some exceptions) is viewed as a lesser job, no matter the title. You're better off being a small fish in a big pond than a big fish in a small pond. If you were close to retirement I would have a different answer for you, but at 25 you need to look long term. For example, if you were in finance in Charlotte, you need to look to DC, Chicago, San Fran, or New York. Tourism, go to New York, Miami, or Las Vegas. Etc, etc.

Well this job i currently have is in Columbia, SC. I live in Charlotte and Commute to Columbia daily. This job offer is in defense and certainly has upward movement.

[Coconut1]

Defense is certainly one of those exceptions. Is this actually for the government, or just a contractor?

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by Mtnluver8956

Well this job i currently have is in Columbia, SC. I live in Charlotte and Commute to Columbia daily. This job offer is in defense and certainly has upward movement.

Again. Coconut speaks in generalities/euphemisms and isn't speaking to your concerns, which are cultural, not financial. Because you'll do fine financially either way.

People who have money issues here are working poor and they'll have money issues no matter where they live. Only difference between here and up North, for them, is that there are more entitlements up North (unions, welfare, etc) that are easier to get and more plentiful there.

Virginia is not the welfare state that the North and the Midwest are. So working poor people struggle. Believe me, if I could earn $25 an hour here I would make it work. Same with Charlotte. Either is a good look for you as this point.

Virginia is more "Northern" in that it isn't as spread out here. Hampton Roads in particular has multiple downtowns and multiple urban cores. Part of that is because it is seven cities. The other part of it is that the cities are developing their midtown neighborhoods as well. I'm not saying that isn't the case in Charlotte. But I am saying that this area has 2% to 3% population growth each year. Slow but steady. It will pass 2 million in my lifetime.

[Coconut1]

Originally Posted by goofy328

Virginia is more "Northern" in that it isn't as spread out here. Hampton Roads in particular has multiple downtowns and multiple urban cores. Part of that is because it is seven cities. The other part of it is that the cities are developing their midtown neighborhoods as well. I'm not saying that isn't the case in Charlotte. But I am saying that this area has 2% to 3% population growth each year. Slow but steady. It will pass 2 million in my lifetime.

What on Earth are you talking about?? Multiple downtowns and urban cores? Isn't spread out?? Developing midtown neighborhoods??? Even the most ardent HR supporter will tell you that's not the case.

[whiskeytangofoxtrotalpha]

As an Army guy I would say most Navy towns are very gay, and friendly.

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by Coconut1

What on Earth are you talking about?? Multiple downtowns and urban cores? Isn't spread out?? Developing midtown neighborhoods??? Even the most ardent HR supporter will tell you that's not the case.

I am the most ardent HR supporter.

[Lockdev]

Originally Posted by Coconut1

What on Earth are you talking about?? Multiple downtowns and urban cores? Isn't spread out?? Developing midtown neighborhoods??? Even the most ardent HR supporter will tell you that's not the case.

Must... not... feed... the trolls...

But who was Newport News City Center? Hampton Town Center? Virginia Beach Town Center? Downtown Norfolk? Ghent? Olde Towne Portsmouth?

Granted, some are planned "fake" downtowns, but still, they're trying.

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by Lockdev

Must... not... feed... the trolls...

But who was Newport News City Center? Hampton Town Center? Virginia Beach Town Center? Downtown Norfolk? Ghent? Olde Towne Portsmouth?

Granted, some are planned "fake" downtowns, but still, they're trying.

I was having fun. But I don't go to the zoo, so I guess that makes me a hypocrite.