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Old 08-29-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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If the term is not offensive to so many why does not the news or the shows in Hawaii refer to people as hoales? Please I can't wait for this one.
Um, that's actually pretty easy. It's the same reason they don't hand the broadcast to the weather man with, "Hey, bruddah, howzit?" There are different standards for how we speak in a professional context and how we speak in our day-to-day lives. It's more pronounced for folks in very visible fields like TV broadcasting, but even I do it. I have a different personality, a different vocabulary, and a different manner when I am in front of the class as "Professor" and when I'm hanging out with my friends. (Which is actually sometimes funny... what happens when I go out to a bar with my husband and one of my students is our server?)

The New York Times never refers to anyone by their first name in print. After giving the full name, it is always "Mr. X" or "Ms. Y" or "Dr. Z"... relevant title and last name. This holds whether they're writing about a world leader or a mass murderer, an adult or a child. It's not because referring to people by the first names is offensive. They have set certain standards as to how language is used in their professional publication. That's one of the rules. Slang (and yes, "haole" is slang) has no place on a TV broadcast, not because it is offensive, but because it doesn't fit the standards of professional use of language in journalism.

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perhaps it's my karma
Based on the tone of your posts and the anger you have towards total strangers for no reason other than they disagree with you, I wouldn't write off this explanation.

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Keep up the good work you hoales; you don't know how foolish you appear.
Right back at ya, with the misspellings, the bad grammar, and the vitriol for no good reason.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Was in Western New York but now in Hilo Hawaii
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newUHprof you got rep for that

Iʻm not a fan of this thread I try not to post here I just had to.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Southwest France
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I feel that the OP was trying to use humor in a good way, to help defuse the anger in the original "adopt causasian" with his "adopt A causasian" thread.

I personally found it amusing.

As noted in several other threads, many of the answers or posts on this board seem incredibly negative, usually from the same 3 or 4 regular posters.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Hawaii
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Um, that's actually pretty easy. It's the same reason they don't hand the broadcast to the weather man with, "Hey, bruddah, howzit?" There are different standards for how we speak in a professional context and how we speak in our day-to-day lives. It's more pronounced for folks in very visible fields like TV broadcasting, but even I do it. I have a different personality, a different vocabulary, and a different manner when I am in front of the class as "Professor" and when I'm hanging out with my friends. (Which is actually sometimes funny... what happens when I go out to a bar with my husband and one of my students is our server?)

The New York Times never refers to anyone by their first name in print. After giving the full name, it is always "Mr. X" or "Ms. Y" or "Dr. Z"... relevant title and last name. This holds whether they're writing about a world leader or a mass murderer, an adult or a child. It's not because referring to people by the first names is offensive. They have set certain standards as to how language is used in their professional publication. That's one of the rules. Slang (and yes, "haole" is slang) has no place on a TV broadcast, not because it is offensive, but because it doesn't fit the standards of professional use of language in journalism.



Based on the tone of your posts and the anger you have towards total strangers for no reason other than they disagree with you, I wouldn't write off this explanation.



Right back at ya, with the misspellings, the bad grammar, and the vitriol for no good reason.

Thank you for your typical response The New York Times! LOL
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Yeah i know. I saw the other thread title and I THOUGHT that's what it said, until I clicked and saw all this funked racist crap.

Anyhoo, I clicked on it because I thought it was a sweet idea. Adopting a caucasian I mean, not the other thing. I would still be a little lost here without my aunty. I am thankful every day for her, because without her, I might just be another *insert cuss word here* haole.
Yay Auntie, bless them all. Actually, sometimes local friends catch flack for "hanging with the haoles" so be extra appreciative of those of your friends who may have to contend with this by being your friend.
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