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Not this time. Lack of familiarity with the character map that produces the ū, maybe.
I'd like to believe that, but you listed your location as "Molokai" instead of "Moloka'i."
Part of being familiar with the Hawaiian language nowadays is knowing when and how to type an 'okina (glottal stop) and kahakō (macron) on a kamepiula (computer).
Many folks that use English as a primary language often spell the names of places in Hawai'i incorrectly. For the record, here are a few of the more popular places that are commonly misspelled...
Everyone has a different level of education, language ability, typing skill, etc. so typos, spelling errors, imperfect grammar are to be expected. Thus, it's kind of pointless to serve as "na māka'i kepela" ("the spelling police"), because no one's hemolele (perfect).
I'd like to believe that, but you listed your location as "Molokai" instead of "Moloka'i."
I would point you toward this article which makes a case for alternate spellings of my location.
As for the "spelling police", perhaps you didn't read my sincere apology to the person who sparked this discussion. I am the first to admit that I'm not perfect. Perhaps I was also mistaken in trying to explain why I misunderstood her use of "granite" for "granted"--that it was a genuine misunderstanding of her meaning and not mocking her error. Look at my posts. I do not correct others' grammar or spelling and do my best to post civilly and on topic. The admins will tell you the same.
With that in mind, if you want to continue this discussion, let's do it somewhere else. There's no reason to continue cluttering someone else's thread.
Wow, I used to live in Hawaii, and never heard of so much talk about spelling/grammar?? I guess it has changed, or you are all writers!
When I lived there, I thought it was beautiful and had a lovely, laid-back lifestyle, but it is limited in terms of culture and health care. But, I always said that I wished people could spend some time in Hawaii just to learn to relax a bit. It would make this whole country a better place! So many people in so many places are running around like chickens without their heads. Its SO annoying!
Personally, I am starting to look into living part time in Costa Rica, etc... Now those places are still laid back, but without the uptight American "keeping up with the Jones" garbage!
I would point you toward this article which makes a case for alternate spellings of my location.
That's an interesting anecdote. However, living languages often change and grow. Although efforts were made to eradicate the Hawaiian language in the past, it lives. Hawaiian is my native language as well as the native language of most of my kūpuna. While dictionaries should not be "taken for granite" (pun intended), they were created by people and serve as a snapshot of the vocabulary of a language at a particular point in time. Before Hawaiian dictionaries were compiled, there was a phrase -- "Moloka'i nui a Hina" ("Great Moloka'i of Hina"). The reason "Moloka'i" is spelled with an 'okina is contained in the kaona (hidden meaning) of that phrase...
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Originally Posted by lauleahere&there
As for the "spelling police", perhaps you didn't read my sincere apology to the person who sparked this discussion. I am the first to admit that I'm not perfect. Perhaps I was also mistaken in trying to explain why I misunderstood her use of "granite" for "granted"--that it was a genuine misunderstanding of her meaning and not mocking her error. Look at my posts. I do not correct others' grammar or spelling and do my best to post civilly and on topic. The admins will tell you the same.
With that in mind, if you want to continue this discussion, let's do it somewhere else. There's no reason to continue cluttering someone else's thread.
The OP is a male and hopefully, he'll return to this thread despite being hounded for his malapropism.
Some "mainlanders" (and other folks) who move to Hawai'i are changed by the experience. And some, change Hawai'i (or try to change it)...
That's an interesting anecdote. However, living languages often change and grow. Although efforts were made to eradicate the Hawaiian language in the past, it lives. Hawaiian is my native language as well as the native language of most of my kūpuna. While dictionaries should not be "taken for granite" (pun intended), they were created by people and serve as a snapshot of the vocabulary of a language at a particular point in time. Before Hawaiian dictionaries were compiled, there was a phrase -- "Moloka'i nui a Hina" ("Great Moloka'i of Hina"). The reason "Moloka'i" is spelled with an 'okina is contained in the kaona (hidden meaning) of that phrase...
The OP is a male and hopefully, he'll return to this thread despite being hounded for his malapropism.
Some "mainlanders" (and other folks) who move to Hawai'i are changed by the experience. And some, change Hawai'i (or try to change it)...
My friend's there on the island say the word with me and help me get some of the saying of the word's right but i still miss them up here and there and some of the spelling of the word's i still get wrong .
But they do take the time to help me with the proper way of speaking in the native Hawai'i langauge and i have problems with a few of the word's because of speaking other langauge's and trying to wrap my own way of speaking to the word .some of the time they are laughing so hard at my miss use of the word that i'm trying to say that they do take the time to teach me how to say it in the proper way
I once tried to ask someone if they wanted the chair in Hawai'i langauge and what i said to them was sit your big a--- down on the chair and it was a very bad moment for me but all i got all night was hey sit your big a-- down on the chair henry ..
So now when i'm around the family it a bit of a joke when the people ask me to say sit in a chair please .Then they laugh like mad people when i try to get the proper sentence out in Hawai'i langauge .To me it was the worst night of my life. To them it a funny story that went over well and thank god no one was mad about it ..
All the family member's treat me as a brother to them and they make sure that i understand some of the traditions that Hawai'i island have and i try to follow there lead's when i'm around them in alot of the socalled family traditions there in big island
I know it's naturally beautiful, but is it realistic to up and leave the mainland to live in some far-flung island out in the middle of the pacific?
Granite, I would totally jump if the opportunity presented itself and try living there for a few years, but I could not imagine living there the rest of my life (im 27 btw) there. It would just be the same old thing. . . limited places to go and eventually limited things to do.
Even to just get off the island is a massive undertaking, right? U gotta fly like 5 hours to california?
Have any mainlanders moved to Hawaii for an extended period of time? and what has been ur experience? Does the gloss wash away after a few years? or does it remain the magical islands u always dreamed of?
Yes, the magic remains and I would still live there if I could afford it. The difference between Hawaii and the mainland is like the difference between married and single. You have a different set of problems and have to choose which you want to cope with. I am in the process if starting a business. I doubt I would ever try that in Hawaii.
It was really pretty and I enjoyed visiting as a tourist tremendously, but it's expensive (everyone knows that), much of the housing seems a little on the old/shabby side and almost everyone I spoke with from the mainland is working two jobs to survive.
Pluses and minuses like anywhere really. If you've visited (first and foremost), know you want to be there and are determined to make it work I'm sure you'd enjoy it. You just need to walk into it with your eyes wide open of the limitations of remote island living (and don't complain about it when you get there). Moving anywhere is tough when you don't have a support base to begin with, but of course it can be done.
Aloha,
Moved to Honolulu to be close to family. Keep in mind that no matter where you are, you are who you are. The location only enhances and provides a back drop for your own baggage. That said, Hawaii is a wonderful backdrop.
It depends on if you want a relaxed life or a more city life. it is a rock. its not like you could drive to a different state. at times it could get boring or I should say over time it could gert boring because there is only so much to do on a little rock. and lately it has been to over populated. lots of traffic and way to much people now.
Yes, the magic remains and I would still live there if I could afford it. The difference between Hawaii and the mainland is like the difference between married and single. You have a different set of problems and have to choose which you want to cope with. I am in the process if starting a business. I doubt I would ever try that in Hawaii.
It is magic to watch a bloated state government spin their wheels.
It's magic to watch an island with barely a million people, which can't even pay its teachers or fix its roads, undertake a $6 BILLION permanent union jobs plan, er,I mean, a fixed rail rapid transit system.
The rainbows are nice -- you can stare at them while you sit in gridlock on the H-1. Bottom line: if you have a few hundred thousand in the bank and don't have yuppie desires, you could move here and survive. See you at Costco for the $1.50 hotdog and soda -- Saturday night dinner!
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Wot, boddah you?
