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Old 11-06-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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11. Mauka - Towards the mountains
12. Makai - Towards the sea
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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this is a fairly decent translator

Hawaiian Dictionaries
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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PAU - Done
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:33 AM
 
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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DA KINE!!! but not 'dis kine',, no, that won't do. An definitely not 'dat kine', who wants that? Maybe your 'kine', if you get... But, DA KINE!! Da bess Hawaiian word that isn't Hawaiian and not in the dictionary...

Aloha an okole da kine
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Macao
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DA KINE!!! but not 'dis kine',, no, that won't do. An definitely not 'dat kine', who wants that? Maybe your 'kine', if you get... But, DA KINE!! Da bess Hawaiian word that isn't Hawaiian and not in the dictionary...

Aloha an okole da kine
I still don't know what that means... lol

Although I've seen/heard the word many, many times with all associations of Hawaii!

Your post still didn't clear that up for me either...
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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I still don't know what that means... lol

Although I've seen/heard the word many, many times with all associations of Hawaii!

Your post still didn't clear that up for me either...
Originally, "da kine" came from the English expression "the kind" and it evolved into one of the most versatile expressions in Pidgin (aka "Hawai'i Creole English" or "HCE"). It usually functions as a "placeholder" and can take the place of a noun, verb, adjective, or adverb. It can be used when one can't think of anything to say or it can be used to explain abstract concepts known to both the speaker and the listener -- it all depends on the context.

For instance, consider the following sentence...
You know da kine, he try all kine fo' fix da kine.

If one's at a Starbucks, it could mean...
That barista didn't know what he was doing when he was making my caramel macchiato.

If one's standing in front of a Apple Store, it could mean...
The Apple "genius" tried all sorts of methods to fix my Macintosh.

If one's at a courthouse, it could mean...
The defense attorney filed a 12(b)(6) "Motion to Dismiss" as a response to that assault charge.

If one's at an observatory on Mauna Kea, it could mean...
That astronomer from CalTech couldn't calibrate the "High Resolution Echelle Spectrometer."
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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LOL! Great answer, Jonah! I've never heard "da kine" explained so well.

Are we going to add in pidgin as well as Hawaiian? For the forum folks who don't live in Hawaii, there is the actual Hawaiian language which is the current and historical language spoken by Hawaiians. Then there is also a polyglot "pidgin" which is spoken by local folks (folks who live in Hawaii who aren't of Hawaiian blood - among other definitions of the word "local").

Something along the line of "da wahine wen spock 'im an' den da bugga get plenny kine pilikia" is fairly dense pidgin along with a true Hawaiian words of "wahine" and "pilikia" which translates to "woman" and "trouble". (Two words guys might find useful?) The line above is more or less "the girl saw him and then he got into trouble".
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Originally, "da kine" came from the English expression "the kind" and it evolved into one of the most versatile expressions in Pidgin (aka "Hawai'i Creole English" or "HCE"). It usually functions as a "placeholder" and can take the place of a noun, verb, adjective, or adverb. It can be used when one can't think of anything to say or it can be used to explain abstract concepts known to both the speaker and the listener -- it all depends on the context.

For instance, consider the following sentence...
You know da kine, he try all kine fo' fix da kine.

If one's at a Starbucks, it could mean...
That barista didn't know what he was doing when he was making my caramel macchiato.

If one's standing in front of a Apple Store, it could mean...
The Apple "genius" tried all sorts of methods to fix my Macintosh.

If one's at a courthouse, it could mean...
The defense attorney filed a 12(b)(6) "Motion to Dismiss" as a response to that assault charge.

If one's at an observatory on Mauna Kea, it could mean...
That astronomer from CalTech couldn't calibrate the "High Resolution Echelle Spectrometer."
That clears it up. Well-described as well.

I guess that's why it was so difficult to pin-down as well. A very versatile placeholder indeed.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Macao
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LOL! Great answer, Jonah! I've never heard "da kine" explained so well.

Are we going to add in pidgin as well as Hawaiian? For the forum folks who don't live in Hawaii, there is the actual Hawaiian language which is the current and historical language spoken by Hawaiians. Then there is also a polyglot "pidgin" which is spoken by local folks (folks who live in Hawaii who aren't of Hawaiian blood - among other definitions of the word "local").

Something along the line of "da wahine wen spock 'im an' den da bugga get plenny kine pilikia" is fairly dense pidgin along with a true Hawaiian words of "wahine" and "pilikia" which translates to "woman" and "trouble". (Two words guys might find useful?) The line above is more or less "the girl saw him and then he got into trouble".
Pidgen is what always throws me off!

The woman went 'spock im an' than the bugger got into plenty of trouble.

"Spock im an" means saw him? Or is that colloquial for 'spotted him'?
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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I never heard 'spock' in pidgen until after star trek had been around for a while. Same holds true with, "Had fo geev em da full macgyver cause da buggah was all da kine hammahjacked'. Code for fixing that which is beyond repair.

Aloha an da kine maluna
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