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Old 02-29-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Welcome to the "People's Republic of Hawaii".
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:20 PM
 
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Even accepting your assumptions, your math is exaggerating... $300/mo utilities = $144 annual tax. $720 + $144 = $864. Nearly 15% less than $1,000. I find it useful in this kind of discussion to be clean about details.
Clean about details when you're using very rough approximations of rent/utils to begin with? LOL. Don't waste my time.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Illinois does not have 11.5% sales tax. Maybe in Cook County (Chicago) but the rest of the state is much lower.
True, but the population of Chicago is approximately double the population of the State of Hawai'i, so that's twice as many people paying a much higher rate right there.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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So, don't buy stuff retail and you won't pay the taxes. So far they haven't figured out how to tax garden produce or the fruit falling off of backyard trees. We buy very little stuff retail although we still pay a lot of taxes anyway, since even if we can dodge the little ones, the big ones such as property tax still gets us.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Wow, you're lucky there's no tax on nit picking.
I suggest you look up nitpicking. I don't think it means what you think it means. Nits are actually tiny, trivial. A 15% error doesn't fit that description.

Like I said, I wish the total tax impact in Hawai'i was lower than it is. I don't enjoy paying taxes any more than the next guy does. I just don't agree that Hawai'i is the worst. Depending on one's income and property ownership and spending patterns, I'd say that perhaps 15 other states impose a heavier load on average taxpayers, as our friend from Chicago just affirmed for his neck of the woods.

For sure I don't want to see the GET rate increased, and I will be writing to legislators to make my feelings known. You might wish to do the same.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Property tax is extremely low in Hawaii. If you own a typical $300-400k house, your property tax is a couple hundred $. I don't feel like looking up the rates and exemptions right now.

The property tax in most of Texas is about 3%. So the typical $200k house comes with a $6000/yr property tax.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Property tax is extremely low in Hawaii. If you own a typical $300-400k house, your property tax is a couple hundred $. I don't feel like looking up the rates and exemptions right now.

The property tax in most of Texas is about 3%. So the typical $200k house comes with a $6000/yr property tax.
The other thing about property tax is that the rate isn't the whole story, because it's Rate X Assessed Value. In some areas of the country assessed value is a fraction of the market value, in others it can be higher than market value (and then you have to fight to get the assessment lowered.) Personally, I've been pleasantly surprised at how reasonable my property tax bills have been in Hawai'i.

And like Hotzcatz, I'm not a big consumer of retail goods, so that's another bullet I dodge.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Property tax is extremely low in Hawaii. If you own a typical $300-400k house, your property tax is a couple hundred $. I don't feel like looking up the rates and exemptions right now.

The property tax in most of Texas is about 3%. So the typical $200k house comes with a $6000/yr property tax.
Don't you rent????
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Don't you rent????
Yes. So?

Renters pay property taxes because they're passed on by landlords.
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Yes. So?

Renters pay property taxes because they're passed on by landlords.
You pay rent + property tax allocation? ouch. Time to look for a new place.

Here in Oahu rent is what the market will bear - as a landlord you may or may not make money. It is a myth all landlords make money on their properties - some do - many do not - regardless of the property tax.
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