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Old 09-15-2016, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Filipino markets. Lettuce is $2 per head for a really big head of leaf lettuce. Tomatoes are $2 a bag for vine ripe smallish tomatoes (generally five to seven smallish tomatoes). Generally I'll get two or three heads of lettuce, a bag or two of tomatoes and the occasional onion. That's salads for lunch all week plus one or two evenings as well. Once they get to know you at the market, they will also toss in an extra head of lettuce occasionally. We also have green onions in the garden as well as the occasional cherry tomatoes to add in.

I dunno if you have Filipino markets in Honolulu, there's not a lot of room to grow things there and a lot of the stuff at the Filipino market is grown by the folks at the market. Moringa, papayas, kale, bananas, avocadoes, etc. are all very locally grown. So's the lettuce and tomatoes but I think the onions aren't grown by the folks with the market. (The carrots come from the same type of bag as the ones we get at Costco, so they may be just repacking Costco carrots. There are some folks who grow carrots nearby, but those are usually smaller than the ones the Filipino market sells. No matter, we get carrots from Costco.) Sometimes we can swap our excess avocados for different veggies at the market. We get about half of it's retail value in different veggies, but that turns extra avos or bananas into different types of veggies and we'd just be giving away the excess if we couldn't trade it.

Oh, you can also take the stem of the lettuce and set it in water and it will sprout more leaves, too, so you can sometimes get two heads of lettuce from one head. Some of the onion greens in the garden came from onion roots that were set out there.

But, if you want to believe me to be lying, that's your choice as well.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Most locals have equity in there homes and bought them awhile ago, or had the family home passed down. When you remove housing as one of the factors, then that would completely change those that are considered at poverty level right?
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Absolutely, we don't have to factor in anything for rent or mortgage so we can be 'poverty stricken' and live well. Electricity is $20 a month because of the solar electric on the roof. Solar water, too.

Also almost all the folks I know that own their own home have either fruit trees or gardens if not both to help provide a bit of food here and there. Most of us know either farmers with cows or pig hunters if we don't want to buy beef or pork from the grocery. There's also a lot of folks who have chickens and will sell eggs. If someone is doing that, they are still buying eggs, but then that money stays in our neighborhood and enriches the neighborhood. A friend of mine has just started milking goats, so probably there will be goat cheese at some point. In the next several weeks a friend and I are planning on making guava jam from some guavas in our friend's pasture. We'll probably make a couple dozen jars of jam, jelly and maybe guava sauce as well. That will be enough guava products for the next couple of years.

I'm sure none of this is in the 'thrifty food plan' that the article was mentioning, though.
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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It's just another way numbers can be used to misrepresent things. It's hard when you want money to go somewhere where it genuinely helps, and not just out to get a soundbite media.
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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On the flip side - Honolulu has one of the highest percentage of middle class in the nation and is aways in the top 3 of per capita households of millionaires
very misleading. its the old rickety houses familes owns that makes them millionaires. of no use unless you plan to sell.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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very misleading. its the old rickety houses familes owns that makes them millionaires. of no use unless you plan to sell.
Uh. No. Hawaii is continually ranked in the top 3 percentage of millionaires NOT including their primary home and retirement accounts.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Portland
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Uh. No. Hawaii is continually ranked in the top 3 percentage of millionaires NOT including their primary home and retirement accounts.
Isn't it incredible that ordinary people that live and work on Oahu can somehow not see the vast amount of wealth being made all around them?
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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A staggering 7.25% of Hawaii households have investable assets of $1,000,000 or more (that means excluding primary house and retirement)

These states have the highest density of millionaires
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Old 10-22-2016, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Maui, Hawaii
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Ugh, poverty in Hawaii is a fact beyond the skewing of stats by the billionaire investors, movie stars retirement properties, freaking Oprah land holds, etc. Anyone living here can see it, watch it not just in folks obviously living beach side, in their cars, vans and trucks and when at Any food store see the ebt cards come out.

How. Freaking. Obtuse. Ignorant. Oblivious. Sad, just sad, ignoring, denying. Once again, ugh, shame on folks claiming poverty in Hawaii is not real, is not a great number of people, is not a great threat to our young people, is not separating families.
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Ugh, poverty in Hawaii is a fact beyond the skewing of stats by the billionaire investors, movie stars retirement properties, freaking Oprah land holds, etc.
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Those aren't considered Hawaii households
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