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Old 11-15-2020, 11:32 PM
 
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UH Manoa has 12 employees earning more than $300,000 and 72 employees making more than $200,000.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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UH Manoa has 12 employees earning more than $300,000 and 72 employees making more than $200,000.
Is that a lot?
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Old 11-16-2020, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Is that a lot?
I'm actually shocked that it's not more. I'd think that many more long-term, tenured professors would be earning in excess of $200k a year. I guess not.
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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Is that a lot?
That is more than a handful at just one state location.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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UH Manoa has 12 employees earning more than $300,000 and 72 employees making more than $200,000.
Given the State has roughly 50,000 employees - many of whom didn't do a lot of work since last March, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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Given the State has roughly 50,000 employees - many of whom didn't do a lot of work since last March, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
I don't get your point. There are more than a handful of state employees that make over $200.000. Good for them. That is factual data that does not cause me sleepless nights. My point is that a blanket reduction of 10-20% drop in wages hurts the lower salary workers more. That unfairness probably concerns me more. Maybe all these low paying jobs should be farmed out to someplace like Indiana where you can buy a house for $100,000.

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Old 11-16-2020, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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I don't get your point. There are more than a handful of state employees that make over $200.000. Good for them. That is factual data that does not cause me sleepless nights. My point is that a blanket reduction of 10-20% drop in wages hurts the lower salary workers more. That unfairness probably concerns me more. Maybe all these low paying jobs should be farmed out to someplace like Indiana where you can buy a house for $100,000.
What data are you seeing that more than a handful of State employees make more than $200,000 a year - with 50,000 State employees, I'd probably need to see at least 2,000-3,000+ make that working for the State when probably less than 500 do.

Anyway - it is a false narrative in my opinion that someone making $200,000 is hurt less than someone making $60,000 a year. That person making $200,000 likely has a lifestyle dependent on that salary - and more likely than not, has a mortgage/car payments and maybe kids in private school with monthly costs far higher than the $60,000 a year person. They all get hit financially one way or another.

The person making $60K/year with a 10% hit loses about $300/month in take home pay - the person making $200,000/year loses roughly $1,000/month
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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What data are you seeing that more than a handful of State employees make more than $200,000 a year - with 50,000 State employees, I'd probably need to see at least 2,000-3,000+ make that working for the State when probably less than 500 do.

Anyway - it is a false narrative in my opinion that someone making $200,000 is hurt less than someone making $60,000 a year. That person making $200,000 likely has a lifestyle dependent on that salary - and more likely than not, has a mortgage/car payments and maybe kids in private school with monthly costs far higher than the $60,000 a year person. They all get hit financially one way or another.

The person making $60K/year with a 10% hit loses about $300/month in take home pay - the person making $200,000/year loses roughly $1,000/month
The site I posted gave the information that you can search for the different departments. The first one just happened to have close to one hundred people. I'm not going to engage in a foolish argument over what a handful is. I happen to be in a group of less than one hundred people in the entire United States that has accomplished a specific thing. I don't call that a handful but at any one time there were probably only a handful of us.

Yes a pay cut affects most people but when the $300 a month less means that dinner is possibly missed a couple times a week vs the $1,000 less means that little Billy may have to give up lacrosse lessons then as a taxpayer I think Mrs. $200,000 a year needs to tighten her belt a little more than Mrs. $60,000 DURING pandemic times. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm stating mine on what I think is fair in this situation.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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The site I posted gave the information that you can search for the different departments. The first one just happened to have close to one hundred people. I'm not going to engage in a foolish argument over what a handful is. I happen to be in a group of less than one hundred people in the entire United States that has accomplished a specific thing. I don't call that a handful but at any one time there were probably only a handful of us.
Sure seems like it.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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Sure seems like it.
I stated facts and my analysis of those facts. I refuse to foolishly argue over what is an argument.
And to be fair I said foolish argument. I never nixed a cogent discussion. Do we need to take this outside? Git yer mask.
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