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How would you regulate that? Should we become a whole state of NIMBYs?
Regulation is through taxation and through permitting of hotels, vacation rentals, etc via enforcement. People only can come if they have a place to stay. Higher fees discourages people traveling somewhere as it puts it out of their budget. For example, if it cost $50 to fly to australia from honolulu, EVERYONE would be going to australia. But in reality, it costs 2-3k, so people may travel there once or twice in a lifetime only.
Regulation is through taxation and through permitting of hotels, vacation rentals, etc via enforcement. People only can come if they have a place to stay. Higher fees discourages people traveling somewhere as it puts it out of their budget. For example, if it cost $50 to fly to australia from honolulu, EVERYONE would be going to australia. But in reality, it costs 2-3k, so people may travel there once or twice in a lifetime only.
So your plan is to make it so expensive that only the elite can come and the riff raff is excluded? Maybe get the airlines to make all their flights 90% first class!
So your plan is to make it so expensive that only the elite can come and the riff raff is excluded? Maybe get the airlines to make all their flights 90% first class!
The flaw in that plan is that the uberwealthy are a fickle bunch. Just because you create an exclusive enclave for them doesn't guarantee they will come to it.
The island of Lanai and the efforts of Larry Ellison comes to mind. Rooms starting at $1400 per night mostly sitting empty long before Covid-19 became an issue.
The flaw in that plan is that the uberwealthy are a fickle bunch. Just because you create an exclusive enclave for them doesn't guarantee they will come to it.
The island of Lanai and the efforts of Larry Ellison comes to mind. Rooms starting at $1400 per night mostly sitting empty long before Covid-19 became an issue.
True. And some wealthy people enjoy such remote getaways. Many, however, enjoy like being the hustle and bustle of things as well, or at least closer to that than Lanai provides.
The island of Lanai and the efforts of Larry Ellison comes to mind. Rooms starting at $1400 per night mostly sitting empty long before Covid-19 became an issue.
The Four Seasons on Lanai (which could be had for far less than $1,400) was not designed to be anywhere near full capacity. Who wants to book a room like that only to fight for a pool chair or can’t get a dinner reservation
True. And some wealthy people enjoy such remote getaways. Many, however, enjoy like being the hustle and bustle of things as well, or at least closer to that than Lanai provides.
Perhaps they need some lesser beings around to whom they can feel superior? LOL!
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Originally Posted by whtviper1
The Four Seasons on Lanai (which could be had for far less than $1,400) was not designed to be anywhere near full capacity. Who wants to book a room like that only to fight for a pool chair or can’t get a dinner reservation
Good points, but the bottom line is the bottom line. They haven't ever attracted their target audience in sufficient numbers to be profitable. (At least according to articles I've read in the past.) Has that changed?
Added: Just checked the room rates at the Four Seasons: $827 per nite Nov. 6-8; $2,223 per nite over Christmas.
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The Four Seasons on Lanai (which could be had for far less than $1,400) was not designed to be anywhere near full capacity. Who wants to book a room like that only to fight for a pool chair or can’t get a dinner reservation
To be fair, there are five separate dine-in restaurants at Four Seasons Lanai in addition to three bar style seating arrangements. Now, I haven't been there to scope the scene out myself, but something tells me that this hotel would love to (and could support) being closer to full capacity This is so especially as not everyone is going to be sitting down to dine at once and these places can easily take reservations. All of this is to say that I highly doubt that, even at full capacity, there would be an issue of feeling overcrowded at the restaurants there.
Perhaps they need some lesser beings around to whom they can feel superior? LOL!
Good points, but the bottom line is the bottom line. They haven't ever attracted their target audience in sufficient numbers to be profitable. (At least according to articles I've read in the past.) Has that changed?
Added: Just checked the room rates at the Four Seasons: $827 per nite Nov. 6-8; $2,223 per nite over Christmas.
To also be fair. Larry Ellison didn’t purchase Lanai to make a profit. Gotta park those Billions somewhere.
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This is so especially as not everyone is going to be sitting down to dine at once and these places can easily take reservations. All of this is to say that I highly doubt that, even at full capacity, there would be an issue of feeling overcrowded at the restaurants there.
