Remote workers are flocking to Hawaii. But is that good for the islands?

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

When you sign up for a platform, such as Amazon Web Services - none can just arbitrarily suspend your account. It has nothing to do with a set of beliefs.

To even use Amazon - you agree to the Terms of Service and a Customer Agreement.

There are several reasons your account can get the boot - you can host an application that sends out mass Spam email - you can't use illegal/pirated software licenses, you can't breach data privacy (for instance, collect SSN's and use that for personal gain, subject Amazon to liability - but most importantly, you can't publish material that could be fraudulent. So, hosting a site that encourages the dialogue of election stealing is likely going to be suspended as it is fraudulent.

There is recourse - you can sue in court.

Quite frankly, if money could be made hosting a bunch of anything goes sites, someone would have built a data center by now.

How did Parler encourage a dialogue of election stealing? They are a platform like Twitter and FB. Because people posting on their platform about election fraud is a justifiable reason to deplatform them? Far worse things are posted on those platforms, yet Apple, Google, and Amazon keep them. Parler was deplatformed not even because of disinformation, but rather for misinformation which basically means Apple, Google, and Amazon don’t agree with the opposing narrative. Disinformation and misinformation is spread all the time on all platforms including through the media. Nick Sandmann is the perfect example how the media was blatantly lying (disinformation) about him, hence the lawsuit against media outlets like CNN. What about the entire Michael Brown “hands up don’t shoot?” Complete lie, yet this disinformation was spread throughout the media and on platforms such as Twitter and FB. The reality is, this is not about Twitter, Amazon, and FB keeping what they believe are lies off their platform, but rather about cancel culture. They don’t like what you have to say, you’re canceled.

[terracore]

Mainstream media hates free speech for the same reason Microsoft hates free software. The MM is paid to tell you what to think. If a free speech platform comes along that encourages you to make up your own mind they don't make any money. When conservatives complained that they were getting censored on Twitter, they were told "build your own platform". So when they built their own platform, they shut off their access to the internet. Gab started their own internet company to keep their online ecosystem operational so they cut off their access to the banking system. They found a workaround to that so now they are trying to attack them in the courts. The last I read, the "dangerous hate speech" they were peddling were verses from the Bible.

[Futuremauian]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

How did Parler encourage a dialogue of election stealing? They are a platform like Twitter and FB. Because people posting on their platform about election fraud is a justifiable reason to deplatform them? Far worse things are posted on those platforms, yet Apple, Google, and Amazon keep them. Parler was deplatformed not even because of disinformation, but rather for misinformation which basically means Apple, Google, and Amazon don’t agree with the opposing narrative. Disinformation and misinformation is spread all the time on all platforms including through the media.

Those chickens are coming home to roost for Rudy Giuliani. He is being sued for 1.3 Billion dollars for the lies he spread about Dominion voting machines costing Trump the election.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...laims-n1255511

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/polit...ani/index.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqjJ4qeLq0

By the way, I hope to see more remote workers move to Maui. Typically high taxpayers yet low tax users.

[terracore]

"He is being sued for 1.3 Billion dollars for the lies he spread about Dominion voting machines costing Trump the election."

It used to be, people would say alleged lies until people got their day in court. One can either consume the spoon-fed narrative, or they can question it. But they can't question it on a censored platform. And the uncensored platforms apparently need to all be shut down. Welcome to 1984.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

How did Parler encourage a dialogue of election stealing?

It doesn’t matter if it is encouraged or not.

It is allowing fraudulent material to be posted and not removing it.

You can’t do that per terms of service.

There is no right to free speech on private paid platforms by the way. The 1st amendment prevents the government from regulating free speech (although courts have ruled like yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected). Free speech is not protected in private enterprise

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Futuremauian

Those chickens are coming home to roost for Rudy Giuliani. He is being sued for 1.3 Billion dollars for the lies he spread about Dominion voting machines costing Trump the election.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...laims-n1255511

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/polit...ani/index.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqjJ4qeLq0

By the way, I hope to see more remote workers move to Maui. Typically high taxpayers yet low tax users.

NBC and CNN are sources I don’t click on. Neither of these sources are reliable news. They are propaganda of the Democrat Party.

In regards to Dominion, we shouldn’t be using an electronic voting system that’s especially connected to the internet that can easily be hacked into. Also, there should only be two ways of voting, either in person or solicit an absentee ballot. The four states that unconstitutionally changed their election laws through the courts, election officials, and state officials is fraudulent in of itself. Only state legislatures has the constitutional authority to change election laws that must be in compliance to the state’s constitution.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

It doesn’t matter if it is encouraged or not.

It is allowing fraudulent material to be posted and not removing it.

You can’t do that per terms of service.

There is no right to free speech on private paid platforms by the way. The 1st amendment prevents the government from regulating free speech (although courts have ruled like yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected). Free speech is not protected in private enterprise

What was the fraudulent material that was being posted on Parler that caused Google, Apple, and Amazon to remove it from their platform?

You are wrong again in regards to their not being First Amendment free speech on platforms such as Twitter, FB, Google, Apple, and Amazon. I posted the article from WSJ showing the legal precedent that the First Amendment does apply on these platforms.

By your logic, anything from Antifa and BLM should be removed. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and so on should be removed from these platforms for spreading fraudulent lies about Trump colluding with Russia to influence the 2016 election where there was not an iota of evidence of. They should be removed for spreading the lie that Trump incited a erection, I mean insurrection. The left has yet to accept the results of the 2016 election and peddled these lies for years, but Parler is removed for what reason? It’s laughable how platforms like Twitter state “if you don’t like our platform, create one for yourself.” Well, Parler did and look what happened. Sorry bud, if you don’t see this as silencing conservative thought, you’re deluding yourself. You’re eyes are still closed.

[Tulemutt]

And so we see yet another thread driven to barreling over a cliff ... by fanatical True Believer diatribe.

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

You are not paying any attention. The leftists are actively shutting up the voice of conservatives and it’s only getting worse. Conservatives are being censored. You’re blind to not see it.

Yo bro, conservatives aren’t being censored ... nutcase liars are ... and rightfully so. True conservatives are still all over the place ... and lately more and more of them are trying to reclaim their party:
“ Former Bush officials leave GOP over failure to disown ...” etc. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/53...n-trump-report

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the actual topic here could be pretty interesting to continue ... IF only ...

Yeah, not gonna happen. Another thread closure imminent

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

You are wrong again in regards to their not being First Amendment free speech on platforms such as Twitter, FB, Google, Apple, and Amazon. I posted the article from WSJ showing the legal precedent that the First Amendment does apply on these platforms.

Guess that didn't help Donald Trump very much, did it? Or the MyPillow CEO? Nor Roger Stone - Alex Jones and Infowars - Michael Flynn, 70,000 QAnon accounts and on and on.

The First Amendment does not protect fraudulent speech (or as other would say, liars) nor speech that incites violence.

Certainly in a Republican help Supreme Court - Donald Trump could get his banned overturned if it was truly free speech, no?

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by terracore

"He is being sued for 1.3 Billion dollars for the lies he spread about Dominion voting machines costing Trump the election."

It used to be, people would say alleged lies until people got their day in court. One can either consume the spoon-fed narrative, or they can question it. But they can't question it on a censored platform. And the uncensored platforms apparently need to all be shut down. Welcome to 1984.

It’s quite Orwellian. No dissenting views for a utopian world to exist. We will be a nation of mindless drones with no independent or critical thoughts.