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Old 11-19-2022, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I have been amazed at how much attention this story has garnered on the evening news.

A man urinated near the top of Mauna Kea, on video, and later issued a six-minute apology to Hawaiians.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...3dfd85125120b1

QUOTE: “It was a trauma to watch,” said Hawaiian activist Healani Sonoda-Pale,

I asked my Hanai Hawaiian Family what they did about needing relief while they were protesting the TMT?

They readily admitted that they peed there too, along with the other protesters. What else can you do? No doubt Hawaiians have been peeing on that volcano for generations. It seems unlikely that all of them carry it in containers back down the mountain for disposal.

Was the outrage because he peed there or perhaps because it was videotaped? I can't really tell. To me it doesn't seem disrespectful because it's an unavoidable human need and didn't break any laws.

Does anyone know why this simple act garnered so much outrage?
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Old 11-19-2022, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I have been amazed at how much attention this story has garnered on the evening news.

A man urinated near the top of Mauna Kea, on video, and later issued a six-minute apology to Hawaiians.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...3dfd85125120b1

QUOTE: “It was a trauma to watch,” said Hawaiian activist Healani Sonoda-Pale,

I asked my Hanai Hawaiian Family what they did about needing relief while they were protesting the TMT?

They readily admitted that they peed there too, along with the other protesters. What else can you do? No doubt Hawaiians have been peeing on that volcano for generations. It seems unlikely that all of them carry it in containers back down the mountain for disposal.

Was the outrage because he peed there or perhaps because it was videotaped? I can't really tell. To me it doesn't seem disrespectful because it's an unavoidable human need and didn't break any laws.

Does anyone know why this simple act garnered so much outrage?


Right. That's what made the outrage about this all the more silly to me. I'd wager that many a people hiking that thing have stopped to relieve themselves

In my view, people choose to get upset over some of the strangest things.

That said, the outrage seems to be that he videotaped it and made light of it by turning around to give the camera the middle finger. It's that I've heard many say that is "disrespectful"

I, for one, refuse to get upset and outraged over foolishness, especially foolishness that many of the people complaining about have done themselves.
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Old 11-20-2022, 08:54 AM
 
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For one, he's white. But peeing because you have to pee is one thing, and not something someone posts a video about. Posting a video about it seems like he's trying to send a message.
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Old 11-21-2022, 10:37 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I too have "watered" many a tree while hiking in various forests, but have never been dumb enough to record it. In fact, I would go behind a tree and look around to make sure no one is within sight. Recording it and posting it makes it a "statement" and therefore is going to bring out the people that just sit around waiting for something to complain about and become a victim.
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Old 11-22-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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When you gotta go, you gotta go.

After a certain age, many people find it harder to hold in this case pee. When its coming out, its coming out pronto!

With that said, anyone not able to hold their pee and more importantly, anyone that hikes up a mountain, should have this with them:


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yungwalm-...sely/612049676

Long car trip coming ahead? Now you know.
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Old 11-22-2022, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Southernmost tip of the southernmost island in the southernmost state
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When you gotta go, you gotta go.

After a certain age, many people find it harder to hold in this case pee. When its coming out, its coming out pronto!

With that said, anyone not able to hold their pee and more importantly, anyone that hikes up a mountain, should have this with them:


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yungwalm-...sely/612049676

Long car trip coming ahead? Now you know.
Logically, not peeing on the ground while you are out and using one of these "containers" (assuming it's out in the wild, not the middle of Walmart) is kind of silly. So instead of some urine on the ground in one place, you put that urine in a plastic pouch and then put it in the ground somewhere else.
Seems like your're magnifying the problem using these disposable pouches.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Logically, not peeing on the ground while you are out and using one of these "containers" (assuming it's out in the wild, not the middle of Walmart) is kind of silly. So instead of some urine on the ground in one place, you put that urine in a plastic pouch and then put it in the ground somewhere else.
Seems like your're magnifying the problem using these disposable pouches.
And it's like a time capsule. 50 years from now, it will still be a plastic bag full of urine.
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Old 11-22-2022, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Logically, not peeing on the ground while you are out and using one of these "containers" (assuming it's out in the wild, not the middle of Walmart) is kind of silly. So instead of some urine on the ground in one place, you put that urine in a plastic pouch and then put it in the ground somewhere else.
Seems like your're magnifying the problem using these disposable pouches.
I agree. You know damn well that folks aren't going to do anything but throw those bags right on the ground/trail.
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Old 11-22-2022, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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When driving on I-15 from Barstow to Las Vegas, we used to count the "trucker bombs" in the freeway center divider. There were literally hundreds of them. Usually, Gatorade bottles full of urine.

Occasionally a pink one!

I never see them anymore. Perhaps the drivers wised up and now empty them instead.
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Old 11-22-2022, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I hiked with 3 college friends to the top of Half Dome in Yosemite. 2 guys, 2 girls.

Up top, we just had to do it. My buddy and I took a whiz off the diving board. It was funny as heck at the time. It never occured to me that all of those droplets of bodily fluid had to end up somewhere down there. In the Merced River. The Mariposa Grove. On top of somebody's tent or car.

Young men are dumb. We do dumb stuff, especially in a futile quest to impress young women. What can I say?
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