11-05-2008, 10:42 PM
Location: Minnesota..California Dreamin'
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I've thought of doing this myself sometimes..and hope it goes well for you. I enjoyed reading your thread, and will follow it. I've always heard Hawaii is so expensive, and I've never been there. But I occasionally fantasize about moving there. I'm 22 too and know what it is like to dream about places like HI.But you are living it!
11-05-2008, 11:20 PM
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sbradley 86 - just read your post and wanted to respond to your curiosity on the WWOOF program - just moved to Maui from SC to WWOOF. didn't work out quite like we thought it would. Call it lack of planning on our part - but we didn't do enough research on the exact location of the farm we were at and came over with the idea that we'd be working on the farm 4 hrs a day, then we'd be able to get restaurant/bar jobs at night to save $$, except we didn't realize until we got there that we were in the middle of no where and the closest town was a 40 min+ walk down busy roads with no lights. While rent was free it only included 1 meal a day. and groceries here are not cheap. there was no way we were going to make it here longer than a few weeks living like that, nor would we have been able to even go to the beach regularly or have been able to afford to see the rest of Maui. luckily i have a friend that lives here already and had an open room which we're renting now in Kihei - much busier town with lots of restaurants within actual walking/biking distance. still not sure how I feel about it though. and we're still searching for jobs...
11-06-2008, 01:13 PM
Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
just read your post and wanted to respond to your curiosity on the WWOOF program - just moved to Maui from SC to WWOOF. didn't work out quite like we thought it would. Call it lack of planning on our part - but we didn't do enough research on the exact location of the farm we were at and came over with the idea that we'd be working on the farm 4 hrs a day, then we'd be able to get restaurant/bar jobs at night to save $$, except we didn't realize until we got there that we were in the middle of no where and the closest town was a 40 min+ walk down busy roads with no lights.
Thanks for your interest in helping me. What part of maui was the farm? Could you tell me which farm it was(i.e. Maui 12). I doubt you'd be able to answer this next one but I'll throw it out there - do you know of any WWOOF farms that are closer to some potential work?
Thanks again
11-06-2008, 01:53 PM
Location: Philly, PA
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Thanks for your interest in helping me. What part of maui was the farm? Could you tell me which farm it was(i.e. Maui 12). I doubt you'd be able to answer this next one but I'll throw it out there - do you know of any WWOOF farms that are closer to some potential work?
According to
www.wwoofhawaii.org site:
"...The WWOOF Hosts that are listed first here, are in the
Hana area , near the end of an
amazing curvy highway, with 54 bridges along its 60 mile route through lush rainforests, quite the ride !!"
I don't think you can find ANY work in Hana, and it's 3+ hours
"... other WWOOF hosts are to be found in the
Haiku area and nearby..."
Haiku closer, but also at least 30 minutes drive to Kahului and over hour to Kihei. There is very few businesses in Haiku, so not much chance to find job too. There is no public transportation in both places. Most of jobs located in Kahului, Kihei, Lahaina. Google maps is you friend Google Maps
11-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Hmm, I wonder if I can get WOOFers to do yard work? Build a small cabin and clear off a quarter acre. Maybe a bit of fencing and gardening in exchange for living in the cabin they build? All in the backyard, of course, not exactly an organic farm. Sigh! I guess not, then. Chickens and geese in the backyard don't make an organic farm even though there's some coffee trees too. Oh wellos!
11-06-2008, 06:45 PM
Location: Philly, PA
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... Build a small cabin and clear off a quarter acre.
If you look their website, at least half of them not even provide cabin! Only tent! Some of them saying accommodation "using your own tent"! ...or, listen this - "Natural swimming pool" I believe this is translate to "pond"!
Damn! This is frigging slavery!
11-07-2008, 05:36 PM
Location: Massachusetts
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If you look their website, at least half of them not even provide cabin! Only tent! Some of them saying accommodation "using your own tent"! ...or, listen this - "Natural swimming pool" I believe this is translate to "pond"!
Just depends on how you look at it. It's worth it for people trying to get a foothold somewhere so far away. The possibilities could be endless depending on a lot of factors.
I suspect that with proper and smart correspondence with the farm, someone could make a lot out of something as simple as a little hard work.
11-08-2008, 12:46 PM
Location: Pahoa Hawaii
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Not always a good thing...
In '04 a young lady my niece knew came to work at a farm in Kapoho. It was a collection of open sheds, no running water, no lights, not even a toilet or paper: Do your business in a box, wipe with leaves, bury it later. All the organic fruit you can eat, mostly wormy guava. For that they expected a days work. At the end of her stint, she came to stay with us overnight on her way to Maui and noticed she was getting water blisters on her fingers. Within a few hours her hands were covered in running sores, spreading evrywhere she touched herself. Took her to the clinic in Pahoa, staff never seen such a thing, no Dr. present. Took her to Hilo E.R. They didn't know either, gave her topical cream. Next day she was worse, couldn't even feed herself. This time back to Pahoa clinic, This time Dr. was there. She had contact dermatitis, from an unknown source, one of the many poisonous plants here. She had probably picked it up from wearing the filthy "community" gloves they used. We contacted the farm, they basically said "tough". She ended up staying with us 3 weeks to recover. She didn't know anybody else on the island. I don't know what she would have done otherwise, sick and alone in the middle of the Pacific.
11-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Location: Massachusetts
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Yikes that's an awful story. i hope nothing like that happens to me because I'll have no one to help me out. It's also a risk I feel necessary to take. I appreciate all the advice/criticism I've gotten on this thread. I have taken every bit to heart.
11-09-2008, 08:57 AM
Location: Kailua, Oahu, HI and San Diego, CA
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I am happy to say that I will be going to Hawaii. I feel I am at least a bit more prepared than I would have been without these awesome replies. I understand it will not be easy, and unfortunately it seems that success just seems to be luck of the draw and on a case to case basis. Hopefully I've got luck on my side and I will make it. Time tells all.
I wish you all the luck in the world, Bradley. I hope you will keep us posted as to how it goes.
Hank
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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