Everything costs more living in Hawai'i (renters, condo, house prices)
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Lisa From Maui wrote: If you don't live here, you don't understand. Everything costs more living in Hawai'i. Things you never expected... bills will hit you, from out of nowhere.
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Dear Mogon & Everyone: I started a new thread. Care to comment? Let's see where this thread goes. -- Lisa ;-)
Generally they claim things cost more because of shipping, but if they are shipping a container load, I suspect that's not true. Even things which don't need to be shipped such as pineapples, coconuts, avocados and oranges cost either the same or more than their mainland counterparts.
We generally just try to not buy things. Grow or produce whatever we can so we don't have to spend money buying things. Just generally doing without is one of the key things to affording to live here.
The General Excise tax of 4% adds a little nasty bite out of EVERYTHING you buy. Food, medicine, services, everything. If it is tourist related, then there are extra taxes put on top of it, too.
I think one of the biggest bill surprises folks get is their electric bill. The rates here are pretty high and folks just don't think about plugging things in the first month or two while they are here. We had a new neighbor move in a year or so ago, he bought the house to flip it and got caught in the declining house prices. He did everything like he was used to on the mainland and his first electric bill (for one person living in the house) was over $400. He turned off everything, including the water heater to get the bill below $100 a month. He found renters for the house and went back to the mainland.
He was always looking for something we didn't have, too. Particular fast food chains and stores. Most of the islands other than Oahu are mostly known for what they don't have.
Generally they claim things cost more because of shipping, but if they are shipping a container load, I suspect that's not true. Even things which don't need to be shipped such as pineapples, coconuts, avocados and oranges cost either the same or more than their mainland counterparts.
We generally just try to not buy things. Grow or produce whatever we can so we don't have to spend money buying things. Just generally doing without is one of the key things to affording to live here.
The General Excise tax of 4% adds a little nasty bite out of EVERYTHING you buy. Food, medicine, services, everything. If it is tourist related, then there are extra taxes put on top of it, too.
I think one of the biggest bill surprises folks get is their electric bill. The rates here are pretty high and folks just don't think about plugging things in the first month or two while they are here. We had a new neighbor move in a year or so ago, he bought the house to flip it and got caught in the declining house prices. He did everything like he was used to on the mainland and his first electric bill (for one person living in the house) was over $400. He turned off everything, including the water heater to get the bill below $100 a month. He found renters for the house and went back to the mainland.
He was always looking for something we didn't have, too. Particular fast food chains and stores. Most of the islands other than Oahu are mostly known for what they don't have.
Be careful what you say or Mr. Speak-no-evil-of Hawaii will be down on ya, lol.
A 30 pack of Bud Light costs $21 w/out the bottling fee in Hawaii...I've seen a 30 pack of Bud Light in Santa Cruz going for $12 w/out the bottling fee. Beer is not a high priority in life, but yeah alcohol seems to be very overpriced
Many people who purchase a 2nd home or condo in HI are unprepared for the high maintenance costs. Also cost for pest control are sometimes not taken into consideration.
Dear Survivor: Are you saying that, within the Costco company... their # 1 selling stores, their highest profit, highest volume stores... are located in Hawai'i? That would make sense. -- Lisa ;-)
One of the main reasons in higher costs is Hawaii's health care program that mandates most employers provide almost 100% of single coverage for any employee that averages 20+ hours per week.
I would also point out that you will likely have casualties in the move--broken dishes, lampshades, etc. In my first week in the islands, I had to contend with ER costs from a knee injury sustained on the plane, and repairs to my car, which was damaged during shipping. Waited 10 days for a replacement rack and pinion steering unit for my '96 Malibu, and had to rent a cast & crutches accessible car for that time. $2,900. Hey, sh!+ happens, and in the islands, it can be expensive.
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