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Old 09-21-2007, 02:11 PM
 
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[quote=medicineman;1546758]..... once again i am working on my doctrate, i know what i am saying.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:06 PM
 
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..... once again i am working on my doctrate, i know what i am saying.
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just because, i am working on my doctrate does not mean i do not have the knowledge, nor does it mean i do not know what i am talking about. do you have your degree in nutrition, herbs, natural meds and such?
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:47 PM
 
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just because, i am working on my doctrate does not mean i do not have the knowledge, nor does it mean i do not know what i am talking about. do you have your degree in nutrition, herbs, natural meds and such?
As a matter of fact, I am working on my doctorate and have been using complementary and alternative healthcare in my practice for years.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:16 PM
 
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As a matter of fact, I am working on my doctorate and have been using complementary and alternative healthcare in my practice for years.
I'm glad you pointed that out. I noticed the term was being constantly mangled.

Those who can't write or spell English very well yet claim to be highly educated undermine their own credibility.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:02 PM
 
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I'm glad you pointed that out. I noticed the term was being constantly mangled.

Those who can't write or spell English very well yet claim to be highly educated undermine their own credibility.
are you saying one word mispelled damages their knowledge?
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:29 AM
 
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how can it be called "good and bad" cholesterol? your LDL "low density lipids" and your HDL "high density lipids". they are not good or bad, they have a function to preform. it is most of us do not deal with what is happening very well. listen to this.
a man has a meeting at 7 am, he sets the alarm at 6 so he can get ready, he does not hear the alarm and wakes up at 6:45. so he is racing, he argues with his wofe about her not waking him up. she yells back, the children are running around like a bunch of wild animals, and they miss their bus. they have only one car, so he has to take his wife, to work, his chidlren to school, and be in a metting within the next 10 mins. the chidlren are making noise, in the back. and the wife is still yelling and to top it off he gets in a traffic jam.
(i know this is extreme) his body is releasing LDL's into his blood with adrenaline for 'fight or flight' he will not hit his wife, she will sue him, and he can not run, he will cause a bigger jam. so he holds it in. your LDL should be about 130 so your cholestrol with adrenaline goes to his legs. your HDL"s should be no higher than 35, they are designed to (after the body has burned the LDL's and cholesterol off) what is left over back to the liver. your HDL's can only carry so much, being he has not done anything, the cholesterols sit in his arteries and veins. which leads to myocardial infarction and stroke and all those other nasties... so again, why call them good or bad cholestrol?
HDL and LDL are CARRIERS of Cholesterol. HDL should always be over 50 and LDL under 100 as a rule of thumb. Also when someone is stressed that will have little bearing on HDL or LDL but would have a more profound effect on Inflammation. A ''C-Reactive Protein'' test will tell you about the Inflammation inside your arteries. Cholesterol is not the only concern in Heart Disease as also Homocysteine and Inflammation play a role also.

Lots of Oats and high fiber foods and Olive Oil and Fish/Flax Oils and High Intensity Excersise and High Vitamin-C and Mixed Tocopherols are some examples of keeping HDL high and LDL low.

Again they are the Carriers of Cholesterol in the Blood Stream.....
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:10 AM
 
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flaxseed even beat salmon in omega 3, but, in salmon the ratio of omega 3, 6, and 9. in eggs, salmon and other meat sources 9 and 6 out range 3: 8 to 1.
Sorry but thats a false statement....Salmon has almost no Omega-6 polyunsaturated fats as these are mainly in Grains and Plants. Secondly they have little or no Omega-9 as these fats are Monounsaturated fats found in Olive Oil and Avacados. Fish are very high in Omega-3's as Sea Plants are extremly high in Omega-3 fatty acids so fish eat these and othere fish ear these fish and hence their high levels and also a potent barrier to the frigid cold waters for them to survive.

Also the Omega-3 found in Flax is incomplete as they have to be elongared to 20/22 carbon long to become EPA/DHA (Flax is 18 Carbon) as the delta-6 desaturase enzyme has to be working properly in people for that to happen as Salmon already have this elongation and are EPA/DHA.

It sounds like your a Vegan and/or a Peta who hates all meat which is fine but however you need to gets your facts correct.....

Maybe you should read ''Fats that Kill/Fats that Heal'' by Udo Erasmus who is the father on Lipid research.

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Old 09-24-2007, 06:44 AM
 
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are you saying one word mispelled damages their knowledge?
It is my opinion that someone who says they are seeking a doctorate yet are unable to spell that word correctly tends to undermine their credibility.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:04 PM
 
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Sorry but thats a false statement....Salmon has almost no Omega-6 polyunsaturated fats as these are mainly in Grains and Plants. Secondly they have little or no Omega-9 as these fats are Monounsaturated fats found in Olive Oil and Avacados. Fish are very high in Omega-3's as Sea Plants are extremly high in Omega-3 fatty acids so fish eat these and othere fish ear these fish and hence their high levels and also a potent barrier to the frigid cold waters for them to survive.

Also the Omega-3 found in Flax is incomplete as they have to be elongared to 20/22 carbon long to become EPA/DHA (Flax is 18 Carbon) as the delta-6 desaturase enzyme has to be working properly in people for that to happen as Salmon already have this elongation and are EPA/DHA.

It sounds like your a Vegan and/or a Peta who hates all meat which is fine but however you need to gets your facts correct.....

Maybe you should read ''Fats that Kill/Fats that Heal'' by Udo Erasmus who is the father on Lipid research.
it is you who needs your facts straight for you sound like someone who loves meat and would not give it up for the world, and anyone who bashes meat is wrong. what i have stated comes from more than one source. LDL and HDL are cholesterols, produced within the liver. i have my own library from many different authors, that say otherwise to what the author of the book you have states.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:42 PM
 
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it is you who needs your facts straight for you sound like someone who loves meat and would not give it up for the world, and anyone who bashes meat is wrong. what i have stated comes from more than one source. LDL and HDL are cholesterols, produced within the liver. i have my own library from many different authors, that say otherwise to what the author of the book you have states.
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HDL/LDL are LipoProteins ....meaning that they carry Cholesterol.(High density lipoprotein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Yeap i thought o got you right about being a PETA.....

Yeap and anyone who eats meat is wrong also right?? I eat meat and thrive on it and i'm not giving it up especially Salmon.....just like our Paleolithic ancestors did for 100,000 years or more since we first inhabited this planet and way before Agriculture was invented 8,000 to 10,000 years ago. Hardly a blip on our Ancestoral DNA.

Since you have your own library with different authors then name the books and authors so we can be educated......

Although i listed ONE book i've been studing AntiAging/Longevity in the Cellular level since 1985 and there are so much research out over these last 20 years about what i stated about Omega-3 fatty acids etc.....but please enlighten us about how Fatty Acids work in the Human Body as you stated you have a wealth of books and different authors and knowlege on this.....
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