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Old 10-03-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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"Upset tummy" is really too vague.

That's why they have a bigly name for the specific problem
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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What came to mind re: medicalized health issues and when I was told in 1999 by an Endo MD, that you have "Fibromyalgia", I said WHAT. I never heard of that. Now I have a new label to take their "drugs"...which I never did. This Endo turned Fibro MD, pushed guaifenisen drug and showed me the "map" of tender points that tells the doctors, it's FM.

But I did get involved in a FM/CFS support group at our local hospital and heard a lot of stories, so my journey began with Fibromyalgia.

The first booklet given to me at one of these groups was put out by Arthritis Foundation and basically said Fibro...... is, instead a form of soft tissue or muscular rheumatism. Well, rheumatism goes way back to my grandparents lives. And rheumatism is associated with arthritis and related disorders of the joints, muscles and bones.

I have seen two rheumy MD's, the older MD called it Fibrositis and the younger MD called it Fibromyalgia. I call it a basket of stuff gone whacky in the body including thyroid which I finally got addressed after 10 long years of the mantra "your numbers are good"....yeah sure. My symptoms say another thing.

Anyway, glad I don't hang around doctor's offices too much to learn all these modern medicalized conditions.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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What came to mind re: medicalized health issues and when I was told in 1999 by an Endo MD, that you have "Fibromyalgia", I said WHAT. I never heard of that. Now I have a new label to take their "drugs"...which I never did. This Endo turned Fibro MD, pushed guaifenisen drug and showed me the "map" of tender points that tells the doctors, it's FM.

But I did get involved in a FM/CFS support group at our local hospital and heard a lot of stories, so my journey began with Fibromyalgia.

The first booklet given to me at one of these groups was put out by Arthritis Foundation and basically said Fibro...... is, instead a form of soft tissue or muscular rheumatism. Well, rheumatism goes way back to my grandparents lives. And rheumatism is associated with arthritis and related disorders of the joints, muscles and bones.

I have seen two rheumy MD's, the older MD called it Fibrositis and the younger MD called it Fibromyalgia. I call it a basket of stuff gone whacky in the body including thyroid which I finally got addressed after 10 long years of the mantra "your numbers are good"....yeah sure. My symptoms say another thing.

Anyway, glad I don't hang around doctor's offices too much to learn all these modern medicalized conditions.
I'm confused. Guaifenisen is an expectorant. Why would your doctor want you to take this for Fibromyalgia?
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm confused. Guaifenisen is an expectorant. Why would your doctor want you to take this for Fibromyalgia?
Many I found over the years take guai for the Fibro stuff. There is a lot of info out there on guai and FM. The endo I saw who became a Fibro expert, pushed the guai. Do a search, it's there.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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It is called the guaifasson (sp) protocol.

I tried it and it did absolutely nothing.

Guaifenesin protocol is an unapproved treatment for fibromyalgia suggested in the 1990s by R. Paul St. Amand. The protocol involves three parts: titrating the guaifenesin dosage, avoiding salicylates, and following a low-carbohydrate diet if the patient is hypoglycemic. Guaifenesin has not been approved by the FDA for the treatment of fibromyalgia, and the protocol has not been shown to be effective in clinical trials. Despite the lack of clinical efficacy, the protocol has been adopted by many due to anecdotal evidence of success.[1][2][3]

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Old 10-07-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Let's just say I'd be very surprised to hear a doctor (or any medical professional) use the word "tummy" when speaking to an adult.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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Thanks, jaminhealth and Mikala43 for your responses to my question. I will look up more about that. I had no idea that this was a protocol.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Thanks, jaminhealth and Mikala43 for your responses to my question. I will look up more about that. I had no idea that this was a protocol.
Does it being a "protocol" make it better? What's the definition of a protocol, anyway?
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:12 AM
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Not only do doctors use medical terminology, or "big words," so they can document specific diagnoses in your records, those diagnostic terms are also required by the billing dept, insurance providers, and numerous govt agencies that review records for quality of care monitoring. Imagine moving to another state and your new doctor obtaining your old records to find out you had previously been diagnosed with "tummy aches" and "boo-boos" instead of indigestion and contusions.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Not only do doctors use medical terminology, or "big words," so they can document specific diagnoses in your records, those diagnostic terms are also required by the billing dept, insurance providers, and numerous govt agencies that review records for quality of care monitoring. Imagine moving to another state and your new doctor obtaining your old records to find out you had previously been diagnosed with "tummy aches" and "boo-boos" instead of indigestion and contusions.
Not to mention that most bowel pains are euphemistically called "tummy aches"when they are anything but. People can be cute in their descriptions but doctors must be precise.
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