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Old 01-17-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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don't think I have ever had this problem. Like someone mentioned we have no idea if they washed their hands just prior to walking into the examining room. I have to question seeing this happen with 3 different doctors. I can believe one doctor maybe, but even then, regardless of whether they did or did not use something to reduce the germs while talking with us they usually are on the computer. It is used by more than one person, so germs are on it. I might be to relaxed about this, but I certainly have never wondered about whether my doctor did or did not wash their hands. Maybe that is why I have never noticed this. I am aware of them using gloves and washing their hands even when using gloves after an examination.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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We also require that they sanitize the stethoscope in front of us. They had some skin thing they spread where we lived!

I was in a waiting room at the hospital waiting for our son to be called in for 45 minutes. During that time, the monitors that lets you know it was your turn was given to several different people without being sanitized. I watched a toddler suck on one for quite some time. I addressed this and got it changed.

We primarily avoid the big medical machine, a best practice when it comes to maintaining one's health.
I can't remember the last time a doctor used a stethoscope on me!

Sanitize the beeper? I guess I never think about a restaurant doing it...I have to assume the doctor's office is far deadlier so they must take extra measures.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I would not go to that doctor and I would report it to the ama and the insurance company and let them know why I don't want to see said doctor anymore . I'm wondering how many of us truly do get sick from our drs when they don't use gloves ? gosh now I'm getting the creeps , I really should stay out of this thread egads !!!!LOL.....
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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I am nurse and I don't touch anything out in public. Not door knobs, bathroom fixtures and certainly not those touch screens and buttons they have in checkout lines. Grocery cart handles I clean with the antiseptic wipes.

When I go to a medical appointment in medical clinic waiting room I do not touch the pens you sign in with. With all those sick people and kids it is like a petri dish in there. The medical questions in the exam room are asked by the hand sanitized CNA who takes vital signs and entered into a laptop that she takes with her. My doctor washes her hands when she comes into the exam room and after the exam. Then she gets on her own laptop. At the hospital where I work we have sanitizer dispensors outside every room I do not see doctors and nurses not using these. We always don gloves if actually handling the patient.

The flu shots have varying effectiveness year by year, often it is not that great. I got the Swine flu when the virus first arrived in Texas before people even knew what it was and I almost died. I was so sick out there alone at my place in the woods I could not even turn over in bed and certainly could not have called 911. And then, theres this
https://www.cdc.gov/mrsa/index.html I am not OCD about fomites(contaminated surfaces) its just that I am a nurse and I know too much.
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Agree with Nurse Bishop.

Hand sanitizer alone is not adequate between patients & handwashing must be done regardless if gloves are worn or not.

Basically; there is no substitute for handwashing.

There is no way a doctor becomes a doctor without being taught this repeatedly; if a doctor does not do this they should not be your doctor.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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What do you do when a doctor does not wash their hands or use hand sanitizer? I have requested they do 3 times when they never did and I felt they were extra rough when doing the exam and caused me pain as retaliation. But I have gotten a staph infection from a doctor that did not wash their hands. What do you do?
Change Doctors/clinics. And find out how to report them.
Start here. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...estions-ethics
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Agree with Nurse Bishop.

Hand sanitizer alone is not adequate between patients & handwashing must be done regardless if gloves are worn or not.

Basically; there is no substitute for handwashing.

There is no way a doctor becomes a doctor without being taught this repeatedly; if a doctor does not do this they should not be your doctor.
Wrong.

Hand sanitizers alcohol are ABSOLUTELY adequate between patients as long as hands are not visibly soiled.

Hand sanitizers ARE a substitute for hand washing and the use of hand sanitizers between patients is encouraged and promoted at my institution which is one of the leading health care centers in the country.


Hand washing should become an educational priority. Educational interventions for medical students should provide clear evidence that HCWs hands become grossly contaminated with pathogens upon patient contact and that alcohol hand rubs are the easiest and most effective means of decontaminating hands and thereby reducing the rates of HAIs

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249958/

Training module from my institution which advocates use of hand sanitizers....

https://dicontraining.medicine.duke....og/info/id:125
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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Neat little invention called disposable gloves. Guess nobody has ever heard of those.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Wrong.

Hand sanitizers alcohol are ABSOLUTELY adequate between patients as long as hands are not visibly soiled.

Hand sanitizers ARE a substitute for hand washing and the use of hand sanitizers between patients is encouraged and promoted at my institution which is one of the leading health care centers in the country.


Hand washing should become an educational priority. Educational interventions for medical students should provide clear evidence that HCWs hands become grossly contaminated with pathogens upon patient contact and that alcohol hand rubs are the easiest and most effective means of decontaminating hands and thereby reducing the rates of HAIs

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249958/

Training module from my institution which advocates use of hand sanitizers....

https://dicontraining.medicine.duke....og/info/id:125
MWorking in a med school we always encourage sanitizer over hand washing in physical encounter settings.

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Neat little invention called disposable gloves. Guess nobody has ever heard of those.
The standard in our teaching module is you glove up for fluids or potential infections or obvious hygiene issues. . Routine physical exams are bare, sanitized hands. Even the USMLE testing guidelines for med students advises sanitized hands. Glove up only if the student has open wounds or rash on hands.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What do you do when a doctor does not wash their hands or use hand sanitizer? I have requested they do 3 times when they never did and I felt they were extra rough when doing the exam and caused me pain as retaliation. But I have gotten a staph infection from a doctor that did not wash their hands. What do you do?
Wasn't the doctor wearing gloves?
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