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Old 03-15-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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A dear friend's son (age 4) had a major seizure out of the blue back in July. He was eventually diagnosed as having a form of generalized epilepsy and prescribed anti-seizure medicine. They hoped that would be the end of it, but he ended up having more major seizures in each of the following months. Then in October, they became daily events. Meds were increased and added, and they would get a few days of relief, and then they would start again. He had many, many ER visits and hospital stays. But nothing helped. He would have as many as 20 seizures a day. Finally, out of options, he was referred to Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. During his stay, the specialists suggested he enroll in their Ketogenic Diet Program. I never knew this, but the Keto diet was apparently originally conceived in the 1920s specifically for children with seizures. And Children's Hosp of Phila has one of the best Keto programs in the world.

They were there for a week as they induced him into ketosis. His parents had to learn how to calculate for and prepare his meals. They have to weigh everything to the tenth of a gram. Any deviation can cause a seizure. Well, he had his last seizure on January 6th. He went from 20 seizures a day to none for 6 weeks. The only change was his diet.

Of course I have heard of the Keto diet, but I had no idea what it's origins were. If this isn't proof that diet has a HUGE impact on your health, I dare say the biggest, I don't know what does. Medication can only do so much.

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Old 03-15-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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I have seen tons of good studies on keto for seizures, and that's great.

If I eat keto? My RA will flare up until I can't walk. Sometimes food helps sometimes not, but it's always a good place to start.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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I have seen tons of good studies on keto for seizures, and that's great.

If I eat keto? My RA will flare up until I can't walk. Sometimes food helps sometimes not, but it's always a good place to start.

Price-Pottinger knew our diets sucked nutritionally, the western diet and wrote a book about their discovery long a go, I can only guess as to why it got shelved in favor of the crap they feed us instead, but nutrition is at the heart of it, always has, and always will be.

It's one reason why we need dentists! My holistic dentist knows it too!

Hard for many to believe, a lifelong friend of mine is in denial, I know the symptoms, I was in denial about milk for 20yrs, til I read an article on hormones and such then decided to experiment, by quitting it all for 2yrs, but I didn't have to take it that far, within 30 days I noticed my symptoms started fading, and within 90 days they were gone, I could BREATHE once again....allergies were gone......

Seek and ye shall find.......


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Old 03-16-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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I have seen tons of good studies on keto for seizures, and that's great.

If I eat keto? My RA will flare up until I can't walk. Sometimes food helps sometimes not, but it's always a good place to start.
I'm not saying everyone should do Keto. I'm saying that it just illustrates what a huge impact diet has on our health. There are a lot of diets for RA (and other autoimmune diseases), and they're not Keto. The Autoimune Protocol Diet is one that comes to mind. Not saying diet will cure everything, but it sure as heck can't hurt.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Price-Pottinger knew our diets sucked nutritionally, the western diet and wrote a book about their discovery long a go, I can only guess as to why it got shelved in favor of the crap they feed us instead, but nutrition is at the heart of it, always has, and always will be.

It's one reason why we need dentists! My holistic dentist knows it too!

Hard for many to believe, a lifelong friend of mine is in denial, I know the symptoms, I was in denial about milk for 20yrs, til I read an article on hormones and such then decided to experiment, by quitting it all for 2yrs, but I didn't have to take it that far, within 30 days I noticed my symptoms started fading, and within 90 days they were gone, I could BREATHE once again....allergies were gone......

Seek and ye shall find.......


It was shelved because we have a healthcare system that is more about making money than making people well. Big pharma would rather you take a pill that they make huge profits off of, than make you well. Bonus points if it's a pill you need to take for the rest of your life. And their big money filters down to everyone - lawmakers who they lobby or are investors in their company, etc. Look at most disease studies and see who funded them. Food industry is no different.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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. If this isn't proof that diet has a HUGE impact on your health, I dare say the biggest, I don't know what does. Medication can only do so much.

You've taken an unwarranted Leap of Faith.


Many health conditions are treated with attention to diet- eg- DM. That doesn't mean diet is centrally important to everyone or to many diseases.


This poor kid probably has a genetic defect that doesn't allow him to metabolize glucose or specific amino acids properly. There is no drug that will correct the problem, although attention to diet to include excess of certain factors or avoidance of certain nutrients may be a way to compensate for the genetic defect..


Cf- Phenylketonuria- a not uncommon problem that is treated by avoiding the AA phenylalanine in the diet. Among its symptoms are seizures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylketonuria


G-6-PD deficiency is another common one that is treated by avoiding certain foods. https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/gl...ase-deficiency


There's many examples, but as a percentage of the total diseases/conditions to which we're susceptible, a minor fraction involve diet.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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You've taken an unwarranted Leap of Faith.


Many health conditions are treated with attention to diet- eg- DM. That doesn't mean diet is centrally important to everyone or to many diseases.


This poor kid probably has a genetic defect that doesn't allow him to metabolize glucose or specific amino acids properly. There is no drug that will correct the problem, although attention to diet to include excess of certain factors or avoidance of certain nutrients may be a way to compensate for the genetic defect..


Cf- Phenylketonuria- a not uncommon problem that is treated by avoiding the AA phenylalanine in the diet. Among its symptoms are seizures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylketonuria


G-6-PD deficiency is another common one that is treated by avoiding certain foods. https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/gl...ase-deficiency


There's many examples, but as a percentage of the total diseases/conditions to which we're susceptible, a minor fraction involve diet.
These were my thoughts, but you posted a much better post than I would have done.

I was thnking that a good diet will not prevent measles or shingles or lung cancer. I believe in eating a nutritious diet, but doing that cannot prevent all disease.

Food is not usually medicine.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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Each of us needs a unique set or combo of nutrients. It's up to us to figure out what that is the best we can. Fortunately for the boy in the OP, his specific nutrient deficiencies were corrected. Most of us are into adulthood when we begin having health problems from a diet that wasn't right for our individual, specific needs.

Hopefully one day, with more genetic research, we'll know from birth exactly what our risk factors are, nutrient deficiencies, etc., and avoid, at minimum, chronic illnesses such as arthritis, cardiovascular diseases, autoimmune, cancer, diabetes, alzheimer's and other diet and lifestyle chronic conditions.

We have not physiologically evolved or adapted to the mostly unnatural diet that is the standard American diet of industrialized foods. The diet has been drastically transformed over the last 80 years. It began during WWII when the government needed a way to produce and get a lot of food to troops abroad without spoiling. After the war, industrialized food (nonfood) boomed. People wanted it because it was convenient. It was marketed as the cool, modern space age thing to do. People got hooked on TV dinners and it spiraled. It's not nutritious, but it sure is profitable.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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It's taken me about a lifetime to realize that so much damage to my body including mouth has been due to sugars and a lot of refined garbage going into my mouth that tasted "so good"....
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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These were my thoughts, but you posted a much better post than I would have done.

I was thnking that a good diet will not prevent measles or shingles or lung cancer. I believe in eating a nutritious diet, but doing that cannot prevent all disease.

Food is not usually medicine.
A good diet will not prevent all diseases, but it has been proven that a good diet helps support and build a strong immune system, which may help provide protection against disease. It has also been proven that diet can increase or decrease chances of getting cancer.

I am not against traditional medicine. However, I think we would need far less of it if people ate a healthier diet. There's no reason the two can't co-exist.
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