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So "just" because there is no cure for COVID-19 there's nothing that can be done? You can't give people oxygen or IV antibiotics to combat accompanying pneumonia? They just have to lie on their deathbed and make their peace with g-d? Oh - right, just take handfuls of supplements because who needs oxygen?
Whether or not you get it, and whether or not your supps work is meaningless - others....even in their 20's are getting it and are in the hospital getting treatment...and many will live because they are.
AMEN, the best answer yet!!!
Plus, if you know you are positive, you let all your contacts know, just like they had to do with AIDS
It is not that ridiculous. The elderly and those with comorbidities are at significant risk of developing pneumonia and other complications from the common cold, and may even die as a result. When you get to seasonal flu, Influenza A and B are very dangerous for these people.
My mother-in-law (81 years old) developed pneumonia in February from a common cold. She had a fever and shortness of breath, and needed antibiotics. She was weak and coughing for several weeks. Yes, she was tested and it was NOT coronavirus and NOT influenza. Just a cold.
My father (94 years old) died of influenza last year. My longtime friend of over 20 years has a friend whose 5-year-old died of influenza this year. Influenza kills tens of thousands of people every year. MOST people do not die of colds or influenza and MOST will not die of COVID-19 but all of these diseases have a potential to be dangerous to vulnerable people. We have a continuum here, not "cold and flu" off on one side and "COVID-19" way off on the other side.
He doesn't see 5% of the big picture, but that'll never stop him from hyperventilating. Fortunately much wiser heads will make the public policy judgements.
Indeed, the common cold can be dangerous to the same vulnerable group(s).
It is not that ridiculous. The elderly and those with comorbidities are at significant risk of developing pneumonia and other complications from the common cold, and may even die as a result. When you get to seasonal flu, Influenza A and B are very dangerous for these people.
My mother-in-law (81 years old) developed pneumonia in February from a common cold. She had a fever and shortness of breath, and needed antibiotics. She was weak and coughing for several weeks. Yes, she was tested and it was NOT coronavirus and NOT influenza. Just a cold.
My father (94 years old) died of influenza last year. My longtime friend of over 20 years has a friend whose 5-year-old died of influenza this year. Influenza kills tens of thousands of people every year. MOST people do not die of colds or influenza and MOST will not die of COVID-19 but all of these diseases have a potential to be dangerous to vulnerable people. We have a continuum here, not "cold and flu" off on one side and "COVID-19" way off on the other side.
IF the fatality rate of the Coronavirus is around 1% which would be on the very low end of what is currently being seen with the exponential ability of this virus to spread which is roughly a little over 2 people infected for every carrier.....estimates worldwide would be in the neighborhood of 50 million deaths...
So no...your comparison to cold and flu are STILL not valid....
COVID 19 is absolutely way, way, WAY on the other side
He doesn't see 5% of the big picture, but that'll never stop him from hyperventilating. Fortunately much wiser heads will make the public policy judgements.
Indeed, the common cold can be dangerous to the same vulnerable group(s).
Unless the Idiot in Chief steps down there will be no "wiser heads" making public policy judgements
Let me know when the common cold kills 1-3% of those who catch it.....also let me know when you catch on to 1-3% of the bigger picture...
Imagine that we just gave up trying to contain the virus. Imagine the months’ long flood of people hacking and coughing in every ER, many if them scared to death. Imagine all surgeries except for emergencies being canceled for months while extremely sick people are being quarantined and treated. Imagine having to wait days for appendectomy, x-ray, general surgery, physical exam.
Imagine people falling sick at work, and entire offices panicking.
Imagine entire families falling sick one after the other, and some dying. Imagine the funeral homes crowded, as they are now, but indefinitely. Imagine people too afraid to shop or attend movies or church.
Stopping the lockdown of the economy will not stop the virus. It will allow it to flourish. And the consequences would be dire. Imagine a world where other countries refuse to accept American travelers or goods made here, because of being afraid of our contagion. Imagine a world where the virus is renamed the American Scourge.
Imagine a country that has lost 1 or 2% of its population. A country where every citizen has lost at least one family member in the space of a few months.
Is this a place where you want to live?
^ Preach it...
Unfortunately there are far too many selfish, ignorant Americans who care only about themselves and not about the "greater good" or their "fellow man"
There has also been a general dumbing down of the population who would rather believe talking heads on Fox News over experts in fields most of them can't pronounce. Hofstadter wrote about Anti intellectualism in America in 1964 winning a Pulitzer....the problem has worsened over time
Science? Who needs it? My uninformed opinion is just valuable as some egghead's
If it inconveniences me...it must stop regardless of the consequences..
IF the fatality rate of the Coronavirus is around 1% which would be on the very low end of what is currently being seen with the exponential ability of this virus to spread which is roughly a little over 2 people infected for every carrier.....estimates worldwide would be in the neighborhood of 50 million deaths...
So no...your comparison to cold and flu are STILL not valid....
COVID 19 is absolutely way, way, WAY on the other side
You're reminding me of the old story about the pair of mice in the field who had ten offspring, and then each of their offspring had ten offspring, and so on, until in a few months there were 18 billion mice in the field. It sounds horrifying, but it's not possible.
Not every human being on earth will be exposed to COVID-19, and a huge percentage of those that are will not become ill or will have only mild symptoms. Many people who do get it, going forward, will not pass it on or will pass it on only minimally because increasingly large numbers of people will have already been exposed and are immune.
You're assuming that there will never be any treatments or vaccines.
You're assuming that this virus, unlike influenza, is not seasonal and that warmer weather will not slow the spread (there is already good evidence that the percentage of infected people is much greater in those high latitudes that are currently experiencing seasonally low UV radiation (e.g. Iceland), and much less in those countries that are currently in summer (Australia).
You're assuming that no one who dies after contracting COVID-19 would have died if not for the virus, and that is actually a really huge assumption. The virus disproportionately affects elderly and ill people, people with heart disease and lung disease and cancer, many of whom by default already have a short life expectancy.
I don't think we're going to see anything even near 50 million deaths. But, you know what, I don't know everything. Come back when we're getting close, and I'll take it all back.
These statements are SO not true. Do not believe these things.
The ONLY thing in the world that has worked so far to stop the SPREAD of the virus is identifying the clusters of cases through "confirmed" cases, and isolating them, to prevent the spread. That has to be done EARLY on. Testing is what "confirms" a Coronavirus case.
This is what Russia did months ago. Despite a large population and sharing a long border w/China, and international travel, Russia did massive testing very early, identified the clusters & isolated them. It didn't spread much. A very different pattern from the European countries, the U.S., China, Iran, & others.
Early testing is the only known tool to use to stop it from turning into a country epidemic.
Oh, yeah?
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-re...-than-we-think
"Russia has downplayed the effect of COVID-19 on its population, but some health officials are skeptical of their reporting" "Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday donned a yellow hazmat suit and visited a Moscow hospital treating coronavirus patients – a rare acknowledgement of the severity of the crisis from a country that has reported numbers of cases and deaths so low that public health experts say they strain credibility. . . "I wouldn't put it past them to be deliberately suppressing coronavirus numbers in order to keep themselves from looking bad," she says."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-coronavirus "Russia has been an international outlier in terms of coronavirus testing, claiming to have identified just 500 cases of the disease despite having carried out more than 165,000 tests. By comparison, just 70,000 people have been tested for coronavirus in the UK, with 6,650 confirmed cases of the disease. Neighbouring Belarus has an infection rate that is three times higher per capita. . . Critics have questioned whether Russia’s tests were effective at identifying those ill with the virus, and whether cases of coronavirus had not been mischaracterised as pneumonia in an effort to massage the official numbers and prevent panic."
He doesn't see 5% of the big picture, but that'll never stop him from hyperventilating. Fortunately much wiser heads will make the public policy judgements.
Indeed, the common cold can be dangerous to the same vulnerable group(s).
That's like saying a paper cut is just as dangerous as being stabbed.
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That's like saying a paper cut is just as dangerous as being stabbed.
It is nothing whatsoever like saying that. Good grief....
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