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Old 07-30-2020, 12:13 PM
 
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Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)




https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768916


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Taken together, we demonstrate cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%) with recent COVID-19 illness, independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.

Another reason to follow all CDC guidelines
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Old 07-30-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)



rl]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916[/url]





Another reason to follow all CDC guidelines
Do you realize studies can show anything the group doing the study wants to prove. Do you realize there are a lot of illnesses that can cause lasting effects that are not favorable. This does not mean we all need to dwell on the negatives. Heck I was told by my surgeon prior to knee replacement that there could be complications, even death. Should I have not had the surgery because something may have gone wrong?
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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A laypersons guide. Almost certainly not so dire as title of thread suggests.

https://www.health.com/condition/inf...e-heart-damage

"..According to Dr. Cantillon (cardiologist), myocarditis sounds a lot more severe than it usually is. In fact, many viruses have been linked to myocarditis, and most people who develop the condition continue to be fully functioning, Dr. Cantillon says—that includes working full-time and exercising. Myocarditis resulting from causes other than COVID-19 has been linked to arrhythmias (which occur when a patient has an irregular heartbeat) that can be life-threatening; however, “that is extremely rare,” Dr. Cantillon adds. Most patients who have myocarditis “have a very good quality of life.”
It’s also worth noting that the chances of a COVID-19 survivor suffering from*myocarditis*are rare, given what we know so far, Dr. Cantillon adds. While 60% of the patients featured in the second study showed myocardial inflammation, it's important to remember that the study's sample size was small, with just 100 patients..Also, most of these patients were symptomatic, some bad enough to require hospitalization. That's an important distinction to make, since the World Health Organization suggests 80% of all COVID-19 infections are mild or asymptomatic. But that's not to say we shouldn't discount the research, only that further investigation of the topic is needed, Dr. Cantillon says..."
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Old 07-30-2020, 07:32 PM
 
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Do you realize studies can show anything the group doing the study wants to prove. Do you realize there are a lot of illnesses that can cause lasting effects that are not favorable. This does not mean we all need to dwell on the negatives. Heck I was told by my surgeon prior to knee replacement that there could be complications, even death. Should I have not had the surgery because something may have gone wrong?

Doubters are always doubters. Next!
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Old 07-30-2020, 07:36 PM
 
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A laypersons guide. Almost certainly not so dire as title of thread suggests.

https://www.health.com/condition/inf...e-heart-damage

"..According to Dr. Cantillon (cardiologist), myocarditis sounds a lot more severe than it usually is. In fact, many viruses have been linked to myocarditis, and most people who develop the condition continue to be fully functioning, Dr. Cantillon says—that includes working full-time and exercising. Myocarditis resulting from causes other than COVID-19 has been linked to arrhythmias (which occur when a patient has an irregular heartbeat) that can be life-threatening; however, “that is extremely rare,” Dr. Cantillon adds. Most patients who have myocarditis “have a very good quality of life.”
It’s also worth noting that the chances of a COVID-19 survivor suffering from*myocarditis*are rare, given what we know so far, Dr. Cantillon adds. While 60% of the patients featured in the second study showed myocardial inflammation, it's important to remember that the study's sample size was small, with just 100 patients..Also, most of these patients were symptomatic, some bad enough to require hospitalization. That's an important distinction to make, since the World Health Organization suggests 80% of all COVID-19 infections are mild or asymptomatic. But that's not to say we shouldn't discount the research, only that further investigation of the topic is needed, Dr. Cantillon says..."

My link is from the Journal of the American Medical Association, that with the British Lancet are the premier medical journals in the world
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Old 07-30-2020, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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My link is from the Journal of the American Medical Association, that with the British Lancet are the premier medical journals in the world
So what?

The evaluation/explanation from a practicing cardiologist that I submitted does not contradict or attempt to invalidate that study.

The Journal of AMA and Lancet are not responsible for the title of your thread because it's obviously sensationalism.
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