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Old 07-05-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Yes, it was new. He had had a touch of high blood pressure all his life, but had never had any sort of blockage or heart attack that we knew about. The only reason he had a "cardiologist" was because our GP wanted him to get checked out once a year by a cardiologist. He had had a full check up just a few months before and passed it with flying colors. He was on a very low dose of Losartan for his highish blood pressure and the GP also wanted it to be prescribed by the cardiologist rather than prescribing it herself.

He couldn't go in and see a doctor in person though. That was my point. Frankly, I don't think a telappointment would have done it.

And of course the lockdown didn't have anything to do with me falling and shattering my elbow but it DID have everything, and I do mean everything, to do with the hospital sending me home for the two days before the surgery (I only made it a few hours and was finally checked in to a completely empty ward). My post wasn't about breaking my elbow, it was about being sent home and finally admitted to an empty ward.

You've just described a man with preexisting cardiovascular conditions. Heart attacks can happen to anyone out of the blue. Again, I'm sorry that it happened to him and you. But it isn't a statistical study of the type that would be needed to support the conjecture cited above. It probably would not even be included in such a study because he was already in a higher risk category for heart attack.


I do think its fair to say that some people who didn't get covid suffered adverse health consequences during the pandemic. It sucked for everyone.
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Old 07-05-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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My sister has stenosis of the trachea from the ventilator. It causes her breathing issues when she is lying down, and she makes this raspy breath sound when she speaks. She will need surgery to correct it. She also still does not have use of her left hand, and no one is sure why. She has to see a neurologist but can't get an appointment until August.
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Old 07-05-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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You've just described a man with preexisting cardiovascular conditions. Heart attacks can happen to anyone out of the blue. Again, I'm sorry that it happened to him and you. But it isn't a statistical study of the type that would be needed to support the conjecture cited above. It probably would not even be included in such a study because he was already in a higher risk category for heart attack.


I do think its fair to say that some people who didn't get covid suffered adverse health consequences during the pandemic. It sucked for everyone.
Sigh. I'm not talking about covid per se. The topic I was discussing was OTHER health conditions that were adversely affected by the pandemic, and I named two that I experienced first hand. It didn't do LOTS of people good to have so much medical staff furloughed and to have so many hospital wards standing there empty.
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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Sigh. I'm not talking about covid per se. The topic I was discussing was OTHER health conditions that were adversely affected by the pandemic, and I named two that I experienced first hand. It didn't do LOTS of people good to have so much medical staff furloughed and to have so many hospital wards standing there empty.
It probably saved a lot of lives, not letting elective surgeries go forward during the pandemic. That's why wards were empty and medical staff furloughed.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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It probably saved a lot of lives, not letting elective surgeries go forward during the pandemic. That's why wards were empty and medical staff furloughed.
Elective surgeries cause alot of deaths ?
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:57 AM
 
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Elective surgeries cause alot of deaths ?

Yes, you see there's this itsy bitsy thing called SARS-CoV-2. In case you aren't familiar with it, its a virus that started spreading in China in late 2019. It spreads when people are in close contact with each other, like during surgery, and it has killed quite a lot of people.


Its all over the internet, you should read up on it.
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Old 07-06-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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Yes, you see there's this itsy bitsy thing called SARS-CoV-2. In case you aren't familiar with it, its a virus that started spreading in China in late 2019. It spreads when people are in close contact with each other, like during surgery, and it has killed quite a lot of people.
Its all over the internet, you should read up on it.
Ha ha.
Mortality rate following elective surgery was 0.17%
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:43 PM
 
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It probably saved a lot of lives, not letting elective surgeries go forward during the pandemic. That's why wards were empty and medical staff furloughed.
Lots of people might be surprised at what's considered "elective surgery."

With my arm, I absolutely needed to be in the hospital, and I was within a few hours, but not without them trying to send me home for a few days first! Lord have mercy. I wanted some common sense but it was hard to come by.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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Yes, you see there's this itsy bitsy thing called SARS-CoV-2. In case you aren't familiar with it, its a virus that started spreading in China in late 2019. It spreads when people are in close contact with each other, like during surgery, and it has killed quite a lot of people.


Its all over the internet, you should read up on it.
You should read up on the actual death rate perhaps. It's on the internet too but you may have to actually search a bit for it.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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Are those your facts proving that its safe to have elective surgery during a pandemic? From 2013? 7 years before the pandemic?
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