'A Few Mutations Away': The Threat of a Vaccine-Proof Variant (natural, sight)
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If you notice, the LSM is exuberantly declaring an emergency with a "spike" in new daily cases, but ignoring the new daily deaths--https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime
Check out slides 1 & 4-- new cases peaked at a rate of ~100/100k a few weeks ago-- now down to 1/100k (after a peak last Jan of 400/100k...While deaths "peaked out" (?) at 1/400k now down to 1/Million..last Jan death rate was 600/100k
Most cases are now delta variant-- Death rate similar to influenza-- death rate per case now 0.1% after peaking out at 2% last Jan.
Break it up, folks...Nothing to see here..Back in your computers.
That's because of vaccination that the death rates are going down. In many states the vaccination rates is still subpar.
"Why the U.S. Delta Wave Could Be Far Less Deadly
— We may see a decoupling between cases and deaths in the fourth COVID wave, experts say
Increasing vaccination rates among Americans may result in a decoupling between infections and deaths -- meaning that new cases might rise more steeply than fatalities.
This trend was evident across the pond: At the peak of the U.K.'s most recent spike in mid-July, the 7-day average of new daily infections was around 47,000 cases (approaching its 60,000 peak from January). But so far this month, the country has seen around 80 deaths per day."
This is not news to me. It is exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche was warning the world about starting in March 2021. The difference is that Vanden Bossche explains exactly how the misguided current strategy is the cause of the variants in the numerous papers on his website.
Also please see my past posts on this topic for more details.
This guy is a vet. And I don't mean military veteran. Look when my pets need help I am all for asking a veterinarian. But if he is the most prominent "expert" on the vaccines are bad front. Well...
That pretty says everything, does it not? He is no more qualified to talk about worldwide vaccine and pandemic planning than any other layperson on here. 99% of experts on the subject do not agree with this guy. And 99% are more qualified than him to have an opinion on it.
This guy is a vet. And I don't mean military veteran. Look when my pets need help I am all for asking a veterinarian. But if he is the most prominent "expert" on the vaccines are bad front. Well...
That pretty says everything, does it not? He is no more qualified to talk about worldwide vaccine and pandemic planning than any other layperson on here. 99% of experts on the subject do not agree with this guy. And 99% are more qualified than him to have an opinion on it.
The guy was pushing for herd immunity by having everybody do nothing to mitigate the virus. Slow down nothing and let it ravish the community AND after all of that with the virus replicating all over the place then state that no variants would be expected which is bull. There would still be variants and even with those variants he would say let's do nothing and let them burn out with endless cycles.
What was done with todays technology is isolate a virus, map its genome, device diagnostic tests and vaccines based on virus and have that vaccine be completely effective in saving 99.99% of the people taking it. The vaccine was also completely effective in preventing death of all variants so far.
That vet is no expert and would have caused needless deaths.
How is an almost unrestricted travel + immigration compares to push for 100% vaccination rate in the US?
Isn’t it just adding different variants, etc to the already impossible to control situation?
We can not vaccinate 100%- no matter how we try: children, anaphylactic shock sufferers, now even vaccinated can transmit…
The vaccinated can be infected with the virus, have the same viral load as vaccinated, can transmit to other vaccinated and unvaccinated and could get hospitalized- though 50% less according to the UK study than unvaccinated- some may even die.
We have no data regarding the US behavior of the virus- just proclamations.
Can the virus mutate in the vaccinated? Recombine?
Has anyone seen any reliable data and research?
Other countries were banning Americans because of the high infection rate and low vaccination rates. There's probably more vaccinated undocumented people out there compared to some states in the US.
There is a difference between transmission a virus and dying from a virus. The vaccine prevents death from the virus in the high 99% range.
Yes the vaccinated "can" be infected with the virus but don't mistake the word CAN for will in each case. Can means it is possible. It doesn't mean it is likely. One needs to look at the numbers for that if any. One cluster group study need not mean that will be the norm.
Can the virus mutate yes it can but all mutations so far the vaccine is good for preventing death in the vast majority of cases. There again can a person who is vaccinated die yes but the word can is different than will they die and based on the numbers that is far from happening.
The delta variant was highly infectious and about as infectious as a virus can get. It would be hard to nearly impossible for it to mutate to any higher infectivity rate and if it mutates to something more lethal then it would have lesser infectivity based on the window of infectivity being lower because of morbidity and mortality. There's only so much a virus can mutate before it is no longer COVID. It's not going to mutant into becoming ebola. It doesn't work that way.
Originally when COVID first hit people we were talking about endemic coronaviruses providing partial immunity which lessened the pathogenicity to COVID infections. There has been partial immunity towards new variants and with death rates reduced by the vaccine with new variants so I expect that to continue.
Some other new emerging virus, probably not COVID, with highly infectious transmission rates and high mortality is a worse case scenario for future pandemics. The reason again I say probably not COVID is because of partial immunity by endemic coronavirus and because of the vaccine. As more people are vaccinated globally the viral load will decrease allowing for more tempered epidemiological measures to take hold again. Right now it is a free for all.
This guy is a vet. And I don't mean military veteran. Look when my pets need help I am all for asking a veterinarian. But if he is the most prominent "expert" on the vaccines are bad front. Well...
That pretty says everything, does it not? He is no more qualified to talk about worldwide vaccine and pandemic planning than any other layperson on here. 99% of experts on the subject do not agree with this guy. And 99% are more qualified than him to have an opinion on it.
Godfather II:
Kate: “Michael, do you know how naive you sound?”
There is more validation in an expertise of a veterinarian, especially the ones in research - than let’s say- any physician. Yes, that’s right- a doc for humans!
In early stages of Covid- quite a few veterinarians were actually quite surprised that the human doctors in panic over a “novel virus” did not use time tested treatments - that the vets would simply apply to treatments for COVID-19. Then research came out of the UK-and the treatments resumed more appropriately- and more people survived..
The veterinary science is battling pandemics and epidemics in animals all the time:
if you have eaten a piece of poultry or other meat today, drank a glass of milk or had a slice of cheese or eggs for breakfast - please say thank you to a veterinarian
Most of human pandemics crossed over from animals.
Here is a simply (primitively ) written story about animal pandemics- just a few- not all are covered- it is a newspaper after all- they can’t do real science.
Maybe it may help to some of you to regain or find your respect for veterinarians and their expertise.
People were advocating that they should intentionally go out and get infected by throwing parties like they did with measles. Instead of getting vaccinated they would intentionally do it that way just to avoid the vaccine.
You are intentionally propagating the virus and can cause illness and death and produce mutations from such actions. You don't live on an island.
I think the world needs to do that, at least the poorer countries. We are at 15% vaccinated world wide and at this pace we will never get ahead of the next variant. Sure some will die but its a sacrifice for humanity. Get a fund together and pay them to do mass gatherings. Much quicker than trying to vaccinate 5 billion people.
I read an article that speculated that because we are seeing similar variants pop up in different locations (concurrent evolution?) they speculate that there may be a limited number of the type of variants that pop out.
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From MIT put in bright lights. From The computer science lab MIT.
Where's the facts? The vaccine has been studied in clinical trials and none of that showed. Antibody dependent enhancement? Are they still talking about that?
"ADE is believed to underlie the more severe dengue fever often observed in those with previous exposure (Beltramello et al., 2010)"
The vaccinated people are staying out of the hospital with rampant virus spreading all over the place. There is absolutely no ADE going people with the vaccine. If the vaccine made them more sick they would be flooding the hospitals.
Any new variant out there will expose the person to virus particles that illicit and immune response that goes far beyond the simple antibodies formed against the virus. It goes far beyond the limited antigen protein spike that is in the vaccine. The body goes nuts with this virus.
"We found that patients with COVID-19 exhibit marked increases in autoantibody reactivities as compared to uninfected individuals, and show a high prevalence of autoantibodies against immunomodulatory proteins (including cytokines, chemokines, complement components and cell-surface proteins). We established that these autoantibodies perturb immune function and impair virological control by inhibiting immunoreceptor signalling and by altering peripheral immune cell composition, and found that mouse surrogates of these autoantibodies increase disease severity in a mouse model of SARS-CoV-2 infection."
If you think the vaccine is a risk for long term effects people then compare it to the risk of any new variant that might come about out there.
I didn't see any computerized MIT article using artificial intelligence predicting the long term effects of getting infected by any new variant like Delta. Does the altered immunity caused by infection alter or render a person more susceptible to infection to a new variant?
We need to look at long haulers and do more research there. We need to do research on what we are seeing and happening.
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