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Old 09-18-2023, 01:35 PM
 
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The drug is effective if it reaches the nasal passages, but in pill form it breaks down before that can happen. Nasal sprays with phenylephrine are still considered effective and will remain on the shelves.
Thats why it works as a nasal spray
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Old 09-19-2023, 09:09 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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In a recent unanimous vote, 16 advisors determined that oral versions of phenylephrine, a common nasal decongestant found in popular over-the-counter medications, are ineffective at relieving nasal congestion.
Recent studies have shown that phenylephrine fails to outperform placebo pills.
The FDA may take steps to remove phenylephrine from the market, potentially impacting manufacturers such as Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, and Kenvue.

Took them very long to determine... After billions were sold and billions $ made.
They were initially FDA approved as effective, no?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/12/w...ternative.html

LOL, those advisors didn't talk to me before they made that announcement. I find them effective in relieving my nasal congestion. Maybe it's the placebo effect, but whatever it is, it works for me. Guess I will have to restock my medicine cabinets with the stuff before they yank it off the market " for the good of the public".
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Old 09-19-2023, 10:24 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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They should never have been allowed to sell that stuff!

I used to take the real Sudafed (pseudoephedrine) but when they started keeping it behind the counter it got too annoying so I tried that new kind of Sudfed. It didn't do a thing. I looked it up online and it said it was ineffective. I called if Fake Sudafed.

I bet the Sudafed owners saw that people weren't bothering to wait in line and show their id at the counter. They were losing money so they marketed the fake Sudafed. The real Sudafed--for sinus congestion it was wonderful. I may try it again.
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Old 09-19-2023, 08:17 PM
 
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In a recent unanimous vote, 16 advisors determined that oral versions of phenylephrine, a common nasal decongestant found in popular over-the-counter medications, are ineffective at relieving nasal congestion.
Recent studies have shown that phenylephrine fails to outperform placebo pills.
The FDA may take steps to remove phenylephrine from the market, potentially impacting manufacturers such as Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, and Kenvue.

Took them very long to determine... After billions were sold and billions $ made.
They were initially FDA approved as effective, no?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/12/w...ternative.html
I was talking about this today at the Veterans Apothecary Association picnic. We had a pharmaceutical chemistry professor over 50 years ago that always said phenylephrine, taken orally, does absolutely nothing as a decongestant! ) Over 50 years to be vindicated!


(Didn't take anywhere that long to prove that 1) Talwin would become a controlled substance ASAP, 2) Talwin is dangerous



It took almost this long when he said that Thalidomide (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21507989/ ) will be back. ( https://www.massnurses.org/2006/12/1...omide-is-back/ )


Carl was a great professor and a great person
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Old 10-21-2023, 07:50 AM
 
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Well I guess they had to do something when they put the "meth" behind the counter. So they stuck some ineffective crap on the shelf and got away with it for years. How about let's hold someone responsible for this fraud.

I knew that stuff didn't work. It isn't even unusual when They decide some ingredient or product is too dangerous for us mortals to use, they replace it with something substandard or ineffective and call it equivalent, applies to all kinds of products. Rip off.
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