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Old 05-20-2024, 03:12 PM
 
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More a feeling of relaxation than happiness. But we just want a good, uninterrupted night's sleep which a nightly brownie provides. Don't really get "high" just relaxed. We don't smoke it. We sure prefer it to sleep meds--- Don't "pity" us, lol. I'm grateful!
He’d rather have you on Ambien, with a mile long list of side effects.

“Adverse effects such as hallucinations and psychosis have been reported, particularly with [Ambien]. Increasing reports of bizarre and complex behavioral ...
Ambien Symptoms and Warning Signs”

“Depression. Diarrhea. Headache. Sleepwalking, sleep driving, and sleep eating have all been reported”

Why people persist in believing that big Pharma chemicals are safer than a plant, I will never understand.
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Old 05-21-2024, 11:17 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Well, pot does that too, with the munchies. When I was young and in 7-11 microwaving cheeseburgers at 3am, that was booze. At home eating a chicken pot pie followed by a sleeve of Oreos was pot, lol.
Eating something while high usually doesn't lead to the same amount of calories after consuming a lot of booze.
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Old 05-21-2024, 02:00 PM
 
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Eating something while high usually doesn't lead to the same amount of calories after consuming a lot of booze.
Well regarding the calories, when I binge ate following a lot of booze, I usually ended up throwing a lot of it up at some point. Usually after I got home and laid down and the bed started spinning. I don't miss those days! I rarely drink now, pot is much easier on me and there's no hangover.
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Old 05-21-2024, 02:15 PM
 
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How would people buying legal weed enable them to gather data about them? Even if they had permission to access their medical records, they'd have to know what their baseline is, whether they do any other drugs or drink, how much they smoke, how old they were when they started smoking, and a 1000 other variables.
Well...yeah. lots of variables. But I ( in my possibly naive ignorance) think the data could be mined. There could be blind studies, encrypted data gathering, voluntary polls...just seems like it wouldn't be that hard. Heck...medical labs could offer small incentives to come in, answer some questions and have their blood drawn. Seems plausible to me.
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Old 05-21-2024, 02:23 PM
 
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The nice thing is that we have a massive medical experiment going on with all of the current guinea pigs willing to use high quantities of powerful pot, for the betterment of medical science.

We are going to have some valuable hard data taken from this widespread, ongoing experiment in 20 or 30 years.
That "massive medical experiment" has been going on since before the white man showed up at Plymouth Rock. Its just that now...it's legal.
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Old 05-21-2024, 02:42 PM
 
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Epigenetics is a relatively new area of study. We're really just in the information gathering stage, and we don't know what the info means.....DNA is subject to chemical changes (often by adding a methyl group to the sugar backbone of the DNA) which may serve to activate or de-activate that gene..,Apparently this paper found that dope users have more of those changes than non-users....(? which is cause, which is effect?)

A big review of cannabis use was published in NEJM 10 or 15 y/a. They found little evidence that casual use caused any problems at all....While there may be no physical harm, I personally wonder about the mental health of those who feel compelled to use the stuff. It's such a pity that some people have to resort to use of chemicals to induce a feeling of happiness.
I find this a little offensive and missing the mark. People who use cannabis for medical reasons aren't "resorting to the use of chemicals to induce a feeling of happiness" (the same cannot be said for SSRI users, which is a little ironic). Medical use is to relieve pain, anxiety, etc. (works different on everyone).

Cannabis promotes the mental health of many people. I wonder what your impetus is for discriminating against a substance that is natural and helpful to many people with many different ailments.
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Old 05-22-2024, 05:53 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I find this a little offensive and missing the mark. People who use cannabis for medical reasons aren't "resorting to the use of chemicals to induce a feeling of happiness" (the same cannot be said for SSRI users, which is a little ironic). Medical use is to relieve pain, anxiety, etc. (works different on everyone).

Cannabis promotes the mental health of many people. I wonder what your impetus is for discriminating against a substance that is natural and helpful to many people with many different ailments.
Personally I think the medical aspect can be broadened.

I'm an alcoholic. I've been switching edibles and weed seltzers in for alcohol. Over the past week, I've had three beers, and a bit of a margarita pitcher with my girlfriend last Friday night. No other drinking or drinking alone.

Keep in mind I've been a 40-60 drink a week guy for several years. I'm not religious, and find AA off-putting. Weed has helped me far more than anything else.
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Old 05-23-2024, 12:22 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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He’d rather have you on Ambien, with a mile long list of side effects.

“Adverse effects such as hallucinations and psychosis have been reported, particularly with [Ambien]. Increasing reports of bizarre and complex behavioral ...
Ambien Symptoms and Warning Signs”

“Depression. Diarrhea. Headache. Sleepwalking, sleep driving, and sleep eating have all been reported”

Why people persist in believing that big Pharma chemicals are safer than a plant, I will never understand.
Exactly.

Big Pharma pushing chemical lobotomies - no thanks!
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Old 05-23-2024, 12:37 PM
 
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Exactly.

Big Pharma pushing chemical lobotomies - no thanks!

Yes, they are used all the time in "restraint-free" nursing homes. They can't use seat belts in wheelchairs anymore, but you better believe they use sedating chemicals. Then the person can't get therapy, doesn't wake up to eat or drink, and just wastes away.
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Old 05-23-2024, 04:00 PM
 
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Yes, they are used all the time in "restraint-free" nursing homes. They can't use seat belts in wheelchairs anymore, but you better believe they use sedating chemicals. Then the person can't get therapy, doesn't wake up to eat or drink, and just wastes away.
Why can't they use seatbelts in wheelchairs?
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