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Old 08-04-2009, 06:15 AM
 
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I have a friend who says this alot. Usually about a negative issue.

I had severe depression for about a year several years ago. I am fine now. I believe it happened to make me understand what my mother went thru all of her life. Doctors back then gave her downers. If she would have had antidepressants way back then (1950's) she would have been a completely different person. A better mother to me. But at least I know why she was the way she was.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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I believe that saying but I also don't like it. Sometimes it happens for a positive issue to.

I think the reason I don't like it is because it is said so often. At times when someone says that to me when I'm going through something horrible I kind of want to kick them. It doesn't make anyone feel better at the time. Whatever struggle I'm going through at the time that's not what I want to hear even though down the line it will be obvious to me what the lesson is.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:25 AM
 
Location: following the wind of change
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Yeah I guess I tend to believe that too. There are things you don't plan or that completely blindsided you and you wonder why it has happened to you. Gradually you learn the lesson it was intended for, even though you didn't anticipate such a thing happening to you. Sometimes bad things in life build up your character and forces you to be a stronger person. I believe that saying tends to apply to those lessons.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think it's a mixture of random things and little nudges. It's a very complex arrangement though to me, and knowing what each decision and each action is influenced by is impossible...attributing everything to a single focus is an incorrect assumption. Every decision is not influenced by divine providence (lesson or guidance), everything is not influenced by how you see (or react to) life, everything is not random happenstance. It's a vital mix where if one is severely deficient the whole suffers. The important factor to me is to step back from the day to day and enjoy what I have, and not worrying about the "could haves".

Those who think things happen for solely another reason outside themselves are just abdicating their responsibility for their influence on their own life. Nothing bad ever happens to them for their own decisions, it's always some other decision or reason. It's a defeatists view, and usually it usually self propagates.

People who are entirely externally focused do not push into their dreams, they wait for it to come to them...if it doesn't (usually it takes hard work to pursue a dream) they see it as reinforcing their belief. People who are depressed often act so, and many do not want to mope around some one who is always morose and sad...they go do something else with other people to feel good. Thus reinforcing their belief that they have no friends, or people don't want to be around them. Many think they can't do anything right, so they don't even try and reinforce their belief. If they had gone in and actually worked at it they would have succeeded.

Having an external focus to one's life is often a self reinforcing view of failure.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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It's a trite and meaningless comment...just like, "wow, God's really testing you."
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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It's a trite and meaningless comment...just like, "wow, God's really testing you."

And "Too many crosses to bear". Sometimes we all feel we are being "tested". I have passed many, and probably many more to come. Keeping a positive outlook and a sense of humor helps immensely.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I have a friend who says this alot. Usually about a negative issue.

I had severe depression for about a year several years ago. I am fine now. I believe it happened to make me understand what my mother went thru all of her life. Doctors back then gave her downers. If she would have had antidepressants way back then (1950's) she would have been a completely different person. A better mother to me. But at least I know why she was the way she was.
It's what you do with "the reason" that matters.
You turned it around to understand your mother where someone else may not have.

Yes, I believe things happen for a reason, some things I haven't figured the reason out yet but I know it's coming.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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Oh yes, I believe things happen for a reason for sure. I have had too many circumstances in my life where maybe at the time I thought something was terrible but then I look back and see that it was good or I learned something valuable from it.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:47 AM
 
Location: southern california
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learning and empathy is good its from god. pain suffering sickeness and death dont come from god.
they are not his messangers. sometimes waking up involves some suffering, but its not god turning the thumb screws its us refusing to wake up.
its late.
good night

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Old 08-05-2009, 07:05 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Metro East
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I agree almost word for word with brokencrayola. I've seen much bad in my life, that turned out to be a component of a much greater good in the long run, and the good couldn't have happened without the bad happening first.

You will never be given more than you can handle. I am living proof.

Hope this helps!

~D
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