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Does a red font give more power to a post? Just curious.
Strange question. No no. My intention was to seperate his response from mine only, red was the easiest way to do it. I was too lazy (or don't know how) to seperate quotes from each of his statements so that it flowed from quote, to mine, back to quote again. I see you did it however. Tell me how.
This is actually standard practice in my company when we want to respond and address seperated topics on businesss email.
I think a lot of the softer similarities are do to a purposeful effort by Obama to mirror his Presidential idol.
The strongest similarity I could think of was that both of them rose to prominence do to their oratory abilities. Lincoln in the Douglas debates and Obama at the Democratic Convention in 2004. Both were firm believers in the power of oration to change peoples minds and beliefs.
The biggest difference is the position they found themselves in on day one of the Presidency. Obama captured 53% of the popular vote and enjoyed widespread support. Lincoln was elected with only about 40% of the popular vote, meaning about 60% of the country hated him.
What made Lincoln amazing was his ability to look past this deficit and set about the work at hand. Over time Lincoln gained support and swayed the popular opinion. Obama has lost the collateral he brought to office, but only time will tell where he ends up in the court of public opinion.
The other major difference that I can think of is that Lincoln's Presidency was going to be invariably judged by the course of a war. Obama's will be judged by the course of an economy. Obama's Presidency will never be defined by what happens in Iraq and Afghanistan any more than Lincoln's is defined by unemployment figures.
Lincoln/Obama similiarities I just don't get. But I mentioned the Lincoln/Kennedy comparison's which at one time was part of urban folklore. Not sure how much of it is true. Lifted from a web page but much of it is repeated elsewhere:
ó Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
ó Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
ó The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
ó Both Presidents' wives lost a child while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot while seated next to their wife. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both were shot in the head.
ó Lincoln's personal secretary, whose name was John (Nicolay), advised him not to go to the theater. Kennedy's personal secretary, whose name was (Evelyn) Lincoln, advised him not to go to Dallas.
ó Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners. Both successors were named Johnson.
ó Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
ó John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939.
ó Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.
ó Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
ó Lincoln was shot in the Ford Theatre and Kennedy was shot while in a Ford Lincoln.
The bill amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 stating that the 180-day statute of limitations for filing an equal-pay lawsuit regarding pay discrimination resets with each new discriminatory paycheck
Yes that is good, but that's hardly a Lincolnesque (emancipation proclamation), or Johnsonesque (equal rights act of 1964), or even a Trumanesque (ending the segregation in the US military) accomplishment. It's just not comparable....then again how can you top those?
1st President Bush by the way signed in the last civil rights act of 1991.
with all due respect
How could anyone put Lincoln and the Bammy in the same catagory?
Easy. One has been deified by the history books, and the other will be, idf not already. Both, as mentioned, were Illinois politicians, however one of them wrote and promoted legislation that made it a crime for free blacks to emigrate to Illinois. While both have gone above and beyond the call with regard to eating away at civil liberties of we the people, only one of them suspended habeus corpus, forcefully closed newspapers that didn't support him, and locked up an entire state legislature to prevent it from voting on the subject of secession. Only one of them created a bastard child of the union, known today as West Virginia. Only one of them marched federal troops over his own people, destroyed their farms, and raped their land. Only one of them met with prominent black leaders of the day and encouraged them to set an example and go back to Africa. As much as I dislike saying this...I'd take the somewhat black community organizer of questionable origin over the radical railroad lawyer any day.
This should probably go into the politics forum... do we have a second?
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