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Old 04-12-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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How would,

(a) things have panned out from the end of the Civil War until now;

and

(b) what would China be today?


I think all in all, the differences would not be all that much. China under Mao was basically a dictatorship under a different name, as with most Socialist states. Nationalism, I think, would have led to fascism rather than true democracy, but lacking the 'ideals' of the socialist collective. Without the One Child Policy, China's quality of life would definitely be lower than it is now. It's one of the good decisions the Communist party did make, IMO.

China is basically becoming economically capitalist, but it's government is still authoritarian.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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I expect China would be a lot like India, where capitalist free-market economics prevailed throughout the post-WWII era with a vacuum of social services in a huge and complex nation, and the rich got very very rich and the amount of trickle down was exactly what a rational economist would have expected it to be.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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China under Mao was basically a dictatorship under a different name, as with most Socialist states.
Just for the record, China under Chiang Kai-shek was basically a dictatorship under a different name, too.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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Just for the record, China under Chiang Kai-shek was basically a dictatorship under a different name, too.
I think I implied that in my OP.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:58 AM
 
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Well probably the Korean and Vietnam war would not have occured, and 15 million Chinese would not have perished in Mao's reforms.
However, you guys forget, the nationalist survived in Taiwan, and still survive. To look at what China may have become, look Taiwan. Taiwan thrived and is still thriving. My guess is that PRC would be at the point they are now. economic wise, about 30 years earlier.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:30 AM
 
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Well probably the Korean and Vietnam war would not have occured, and 15 million Chinese would not have perished in Mao's reforms.
However, you guys forget, the nationalist survived in Taiwan, and still survive. To look at what China may have become, look Taiwan. Taiwan thrived and is still thriving. My guess is that PRC would be at the point they are now. economic wise, about 30 years earlier.
China is a much bigger animal to tame than Taiwan. Taiwan is an island nation of 25 million people, China has 1.4 billion. I think any sort of government would have to be on top of it's game to govern such a vast nation.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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I think the most interesting divirgence would have been the impact it would have had on the Cold War. The US would have been very keen on fostering and having a very deep relationship with a nationalist China. Though Soviet-Sino relations were certainly never all that great, I imagine they could have been downright hostile if China had become deeply tied to the west. The US would have been an even greater power broker in SE Asia then it is today, we would probably even have military bases in China. The Korean peninsula would be united and Vietnam would have never happened. I think today China may still be in its position as a BRIC nation, but one decidedly far more pro-western.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:33 AM
 
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I think the most interesting divirgence would have been the impact it would have had on the Cold War. The US would have been very keen on fostering and having a very deep relationship with a nationalist China. Though Soviet-Sino relations were certainly never all that great, I imagine they could have been downright hostile if China had become deeply tied to the west. The US would have been an even greater power broker in SE Asia then it is today, we would probably even have military bases in China. The Korean peninsula would be united and Vietnam would have never happened. I think today China may still be in its position as a BRIC nation, but one decidedly far more pro-western.
Yes I think tourism in China would also be a lot higher, although it's fast catching up (now second most visited country on earth).
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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There'd be more women for every man.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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How would,

(a) things have panned out from the end of the Civil War until now;

and

(b) what would China be today?


I think all in all, the differences would not be all that much. China under Mao was basically a dictatorship under a different name, as with most Socialist states. Nationalism, I think, would have led to fascism rather than true democracy, but lacking the 'ideals' of the socialist collective. Without the One Child Policy, China's quality of life would definitely be lower than it is now. It's one of the good decisions the Communist party did make, IMO.

China is basically becoming economically capitalist, but it's government is still authoritarian.
It alos could be another south Korea;who really knows.
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