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True, but how does that change the reasons behind lynchings? As I said the authorities supported lynchings.
Prove that "authorities" "supported" lynchings.
Define "authorities", then define what "support" was, and then show more than one example of it.
Because that sounds like the kind of hyperbole that gets repeated so often that everyone believes it and lets it get said without challenging it. Like George Zimmerman was a racist, and Trayvon Martin was an innocent schoolboy on his way home from the store.
For the past 25 or so years Blacks have been killing Whites in homicides at a higher rate than vice verse....I would say they have "paid back" Whitey well enough...Many of the Black on White homicides may not have been motivated by the victims White race, but they are still homicides none the less...
That's what I was thinking. Why should we memorialize a few thousand black victims of white mob violence(a number of whom deserved exactly what they got) while ignoring the many more thousand of white victims of black violence?
Maybe the OP should consider looking at the number of black victims killed by other blacks just in the last decade alone. It's far more than a few thousand. Might your priorities be misplaced? Or does it only matter when there's a white perpetrator to hate?
NONSENSE. Law enforcement in the South from the 1880s through the 1960s was NOT a problem. The lynching of black people there was.
Oh, I don't know. If you take crime statistics over the last 40 years and extrapolate backwards with the assumption that they were committing crimes at or above today's rate back then, I would think that it would be a HUGE problem for the victims. But you probably don't think so for the same reason you don't think that the victims have much right to have their concerns about the huge variation in propensity to commit crime today, which is that it doesn't advance your political agenda, as you seem perfectly willing (like all leftists) to cherry-pick through the statistics in order to create a dishonest, false and completely fabricated narrative intended solely to influence the ignorant and the stupid into believing in a reality that does not exist, and has never existed, which guarantees that the cause of the problems today will never be identified as a necessary first step to being solved.
Instead, the government will always be there to "solve" those problems, and the Producers will be forever enslaved into supporting doomed-to-failure social welfare programs that perpetuate those problems and permanently condemn the Producers to continued slavery forever.
Except in Broward County, Ferguson, MO and Brooklyn, New York (Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown and Garner).
Then it's okay.
The obvious difference is that none of the three killers in those cases were lynched. Protesting is not lynching.
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And yet which history has been revised, rewritten and co-opted to perpetuate institutionalized racism such as affirmative action? Which history is state-mandated, with stiff, career-ending penalties to anyone that dissents? Who is it that stands directly atop the throat of the working-class Producers and requires full submission to the state-mandated narrative, while simultaneously wailing and dramatically flailing about claiming VICTIM status? And despite the existence of the behemoth of black socialist bureaucracy, where in all those trillions of dollars worth of Federal Government plantation make-work is the US Federal Department of Taking Responsibility for the Consequences of Your Own Stupidity?
This does not even respond to the post on the history of lynching. In fact, it does not make sense.
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That's what I was thinking. Why should we memorialize a few thousand black victims of white mob violence(a number of whom deserved exactly what they got) while ignoring the many more thousand of white victims of black violence?
Maybe the OP should consider looking at the number of black victims killed by other blacks just in the last decade alone. It's far more than a few thousand. Might your priorities be misplaced? Or does it only matter when there's a white perpetrator to hate?
Why do you believe that (mostly) black victims of white supremacist terrorism got what they deserve? Because they didn't "know their place?" Because they were accused of:
Conjuring
Frightening a white woman
Voodooism
Courting white woman
Testifying against white man
Unruly remarks
Being disreputable
Insulting white woman
Suing white woman
Acting suspiciously
Throwing stones
Unpopularity
Imagine applying the same standard to the victims of the Oklahoma City bombing, of the Olympic Park bombing, or of the London subway attacks.
We should memorialize the victims of white supremacist terrorism because they were the victims of politically-motivated violence. It is of a different character than an ordinary murder.
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Oh, I don't know. If you take crime statistics over the last 40 years and extrapolate backwards with the assumption that they were committing crimes at or above today's rate back then, I would think that it would be a HUGE problem for the victims.
Seriously, you should read about the "Black Codes" and segregation of the post-bellum South. You have a distorted view of the history of that region. Or you have an unnaturally strong view about the danger of "conjurers" and of freedmen not in possession of a labor contract.
This does not even respond to the post on the history of lynching. In fact, it does not make sense.
It doesn't make sense because you believe in the Lie. You NEED to believe in the lie. You haven't any choice now, as everything about you and your life depends upon governmental largess, and that can only be had by toeing the party line, repeating the authorized narrative, make 2 + 3 equal whatever they tell you it equals and the very first moment you diverge from the Government Mandated Narrative, everything you are and everything you have will be reduced to nothing. Every once in a while they are able to make an example out of someone like Donald Sterling.
When a Billionaire can have everything taken away from him due to what he said in what he thought was a private conversation, there is no safety for anyone, anywhere, and the time for violent revolution is long since past.
For example it wasn't so long ago that those "killers" were murderers, and you and all your leftist, socialist associates used that word and all of it's connotational variations with the intent of influencing popular opinion, and you continued on in that regard until the evidence overwhelmingly proved that the narrative was false. And now you use the condemnatory word "killer". Oh, if you only had as much laser-focused passion on the thousands upon thousands of black-on-black crime as you do the occasional targets of opportunity the Right Reverend Al Sharpton points out for you.
But that DOESN'T happen, because advocating taking personal responsibility and holding people accountable for their actions instead of forcing them to parrot the "I'm a Victim" mantra doesn't forward YOUR political agenda, and so all those people die and their deaths are pointedly ignored by self-serving sociopaths that can only point their fingers out there, some where, anywhere but there where it really is. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault, both in their personal lives and their political beliefs.
The problem (for you) is that your methods are a double-edged sword. While they have may have persuasive effect on the retarded class of government mandated parasites, the intelligent self-starting Americans hear your Federally Mandated Narrative and make a decision about YOU, and not whatever it is that you think is more important. We understand the word "transcendent" to a greater degree than you ever will, because, when the band plays "Hail to the Chief", they're pointing the cannon at us. And it's you that's doing the aiming.
We know who you are, and we know what you are. And we know that almost all of what you say is posturing and parroting in order to maintain your place in line on the Federal Plantation.
Define "authorities", then define what "support" was, and then show more than one example of it.
Because that sounds like the kind of hyperbole that gets repeated so often that everyone believes it and lets it get said without challenging it.
You haven't read the report summary linked in the first post of this thread, correct?
That might be why you didn't discuss the example of releasing a man to a mob for his own lynching, after the date and time of the lynching was published in the newspaper. Government officials stated that they lacked the resources to stop it. It's compelling evidence that authorities supported lynchings.
Responding to facts in the report, instead of demanding we define terms and prove things, would require the report be read.
Why do you believe that (mostly) black victims of white supremacist terrorism got what they deserve? Because they didn't "know their place?" Because they were accused of:
Conjuring
Frightening a white woman
Voodooism
Courting white woman
Testifying against white man
Unruly remarks
Being disreputable
Insulting white woman
Suing white woman
Acting suspiciously
Throwing stones
Unpopularity
Right, because all of the victims of lynching were innocent. None actually committed heinous crimes.
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We should memorialize the victims of white supremacist terrorism because they were the victims of politically-motivated violence. It is of a different character than an ordinary murder.
And I would argue that being a victim of a "knockout game"(committed almost exclusively by blacks) for doing nothing more than being white and walking down a public street is no less a form of terrorism. Should we have a memorial for them as well?
Our local city does a memorial to traffic fatalities and so one sees many markers by the road side. I think it would be dismal if we made a marker for every occasion where a person or persons was wronged by the system.
Amen. If we did a memorial to every person who died from traffic accidents and/or other early tragic deaths, we'd run out of granite and open space.
How many blacks have been killed by other blacks? Do they get a memorial too? Or is it just the blacks killed by whites? And what about the whites killed by blacks? And what about the other ethnicities that have suffered at the hands of other ethnicities?
This political correctness is so foolish for so many reasons.
So truth is arrived at by vote? And some people's vote is worth more than other people's vote? Millions of flies all agree that feces is good to eat. And I really don't think you should be telling people to "hold their peace". All that does is make me wonder if you really have the Phd that you claim to have. My experience in online arguments is that intelligent people let the depth, breadth and presentation of their knowledge endorse their opinions, and that the least intelligent (and least honest) people are the ones fabricating imaginary degrees in order to support their weak, and weak-minded opinions.
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And yet which history has been revised, rewritten and co-opted to perpetuate institutionalized racism such as affirmative action? Which history is state-mandated, with stiff, career-ending penalties to anyone that dissents? Who is it that stands directly atop the throat of the working-class Producers and requires full submission to the state-mandated narrative, while simultaneously wailing and dramatically flailing about claiming VICTIM status? And despite the existence of the behemoth of black socialist bureaucracy, where in all those trillions of dollars worth of Federal Government plantation make-work is the US Federal Department of Taking Responsibility for the Consequences of Your Own Stupidity?
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Except in Broward County, Ferguson, MO and Brooklyn, New York (Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown and Garner).
Then it's okay.
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Originally Posted by TheBlasphemer
Prove that "authorities" "supported" lynchings.
Define "authorities", then define what "support" was, and then show more than one example of it.
Because that sounds like the kind of hyperbole that gets repeated so often that everyone believes it and lets it get said without challenging it. Like George Zimmerman was a racist, and Trayvon Martin was an innocent schoolboy on his way home from the store.
If you don't have anything historical to add to the discussion here, take your comments over to the Politics forum, sir.
Right, because all of the victims of lynching were innocent. None actually committed heinous crimes.
And I would argue that being a victim of a "knockout game"(committed almost exclusively by blacks) for doing nothing more than being white and walking down a public street is no less a form of terrorism. Should we have a memorial for them as well?
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Amen. If we did a memorial to every person who died from traffic accidents and/or other early tragic deaths, we'd run out of granite and open space.
How many blacks have been killed by other blacks? Do they get a memorial too? Or is it just the blacks killed by whites? And what about the whites killed by blacks? And what about the other ethnicities that have suffered at the hands of other ethnicities?
This political correctness is so foolish for so many reasons.
What so offends you two about memorializing the victims of racist terrorism against blacks that you defend the indefensible? Are you two also offended by memorials to Holocaust victims?
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