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Old 10-10-2015, 05:30 AM
 
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According to this and it's citations over 1% of free blacks owned slaves in 1830, but those with only 1 or 2 were probably protecting a family member. That leaves something like .5-.75% of free blacks as exploitative slave owners. And even for a time in Virginia blacks could own indentured whites. I didn't know that.

2010 Metro Atlanta shows 5+ million overall, with 1,700,000 AA's. So if we magically re-wound to 1830, about 12,000-15,000 black people in metro Atlanta would be exploitative slave owners. I was surprised the % was quite that high...

Did Black People Own Slaves? | American Renaissance
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Did Black People Own Slaves? | American Renaissance[/quote][quote=madison999;41508786]

Sorry, but I don't frequent white supremacist websites...
According to this and it's citations over 1% of free blacks owned slaves in 1830, but those with only 1 or 2 were probably protecting a family member. That leaves something like .5-.75% of free blacks as exploitative slave owners. And even for a time in Virginia blacks could own indentured whites. I didn't know that.

2010 Metro Atlanta shows 5+ million overall, with 1,700,000 AA's. So if we magically re-wound to 1830, about 12,000-15,000 black people in metro Atlanta would be exploitative slave owners. I was surprised the % was quite that high...
Your statistical presentation is a unholy mess particularly the second paragraph.

According to the most detail statistical conducted by Carter G. Woodson, of slave ownership in 1830, that out of the 319,599 free people of color 3,776 owned 12,907 slaves out of a total of 2,009,043. Further study of Woodson's statistics by Thomas J. Pressly,calculated that:

54 or 1% of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves;
172 (4%) owned between 10 to 19 slaves;
3,550 (94%) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves, 42% of whom owned just one slave.

As for the "owning" of white indentured servants. Indentured servants were not "owned" but were bonded to those holders of their contract for a limited time. And just to be clear, indentured servants could bring suits, testify in court, own land and property and their children did not inherit their parents status of servitude.

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Old 10-10-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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It is a modern day myth that slavery only involved white Americans enslaving blacks. In fact, almost all American slaves were first enslaved by black Africans before being sold to white Americans. Slavery was a way of life for Africans. That is why they rarely rebelled against their slave-owners and why they were so highly prized as slaves. It would not have been against most black Americans' consciousness to enslave a fellow black.
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Old 10-10-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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It is a modern day myth that slavery only involved white Americans enslaving blacks.
It is only a modern myth for white folks attempting to shift blame.

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Slavery was a way of life for Africans.
Slavery was a way of life just as it was throughout Europe and the middle east. It wasn't until the 17th century that we see the justification for slavery arise from a race based rational, the inherent inferiority of one group of humans based upon nothing other than the color of their skin.

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That is why they rarely rebelled against their slave-owners and why they were so highly prized as slaves.
Now there is a myth, nothing was more terrify to south slave owners than the real threat of a slave revolt. It would behove you to review the history of the Stono Rebellion (1739), Gabriel Prosser's Rebellion (1800), the Louisiana revolt (1811), Fort Bount revolt (1816), Denmark Vesey's revolt (1822), Nat Turner (1831), Amistad mutiny (1839), Creole revolt (1841) and of course John Brown in 1859. Of course these are only the major historical slave rebellions and do not take into account the innumerable small acts of defiance. And while the Underground Railroad wasn't a revolt in the usual sense, 100,000 slaves freed themselves from their masters with the assistance of those who manned it.

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It would not have been against most black Americans' consciousness to enslave a fellow black.
That's would be a peculiar argument considering that only 1% of free persons of colors owned slaves and of that total 42% only owned one slave quite often a family member and more often than not their slavery was intended to protect them from being sold or captured by others.
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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You really need to learn history, WiseWino. You're so incredibly off, it's not even remotely amusing.
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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all this matters today because ?
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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for wisewino...

Black Slave Owners Civil War Article by Robert M Grooms
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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all this matters today because ?
you're in the history forum amigo.
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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Do you have something specific reason why I should read your link? Do you have something to say on the subject or is this going to just be a link spaming contest?
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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You really need to learn history, WiseWino. You're so incredibly off, it's not even remotely amusing.
Teach away because so far all that's been posted are one-liners and link.
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