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Old 07-01-2016, 02:19 AM
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Today the 1st July 2016 marks the start of the Battle of the Somme in World War 1, which occurred exectly 100 years ago.

19,240 British and Commonwealth Soldiers were killed on this day 100 years ago, and in the four months that followed over 481,842 British and Commonwealth Soldiers died and over 794,238 men were killed overall in what was the most bloody battle in the history of mankind.

Ten facts about the Battle of the Somme

Battle of the Somme - Wiki

BBC - iWonder - The Battle of the Somme: 141 days of horror

Battle of the Somme: Centenary remembrance events held - BBC News

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Old 07-01-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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The only American museum devoted to WW I is in Kansas City. I had just finished listening to Dan Carlin's "Blueprint for Armageddon" when I visited the museum.

I recommend it; Americans know very little of WW I.
You searched for Blueprint for Armageddon - Dan Carlin
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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Nobody does mass murder better than incompetent generals.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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What a catastrophic bloodbath the Somme was. I'm often reminded of the classic film by Stanley Kubrick on WWI, "Paths of Glory" (starring Kirk Douglas as Col. Dax in a powerful performance) as to why these tragic bloodbaths continued, and how Generals could evade responsibility for their incompetence.

Paths Of Glory - 1957
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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It was remembered here big time. Lots of parades and church services. A re-enactment of the charge of the Ulster Division etc
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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19,240 British and Commonwealth Soldiers were killed on this day 100 years ago, and in the four months that followed over 481,842 British and Commonwealth Soldiers died
The 481,842 represent total Commonwealth casualties, not killed. According to the links you provided, there were 95,675 Commonwealth soldiers killed, and 50,756 French for a total Allies killed of 146,431.
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Old 07-07-2016, 01:41 AM
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The 481,842 represent total Commonwealth casualties, not killed. According to the links you provided, there were 95,675 Commonwealth soldiers killed, and 50,756 French for a total Allies killed of 146,431.
The actual casualty figure for the first day of the Somme was 56,000 British and Commonwealth troops, with 19,240 lost.

In total 1,332,156 people would be killed during the Battle of the Somme - 481,842 of them British and Commonwealth. The figure 481,842 represents British and Commonwealth Soldiers lost.

Around 17 million fell during The Great War, with 20 million wounded

UK News: Battle of the Somme: Use our First World War search tool to discover fallen soldiers from your area - British Express

Prince William, Kate and Prince Harry mark the Somme 100 anniversary in France

Remembering the Somme with The Zero Hour Panoramas – British Journal of Photography

Even Wiki cites them as lost and not casualities listing author Williams, John F. (2005) as a source.

Battle of the Somme - Wiki

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Old 07-07-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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The actual casualty figure for the first day of the Somme was 56,000 British and Commonwealth troops, with 19,240 lost.

In total 1,332,156 people would be killed during the Battle of the Somme - 481,842 of them British and Commonwealth. The figure 481,842 represents British and Commonwealth Soldiers lost.
Casualties means killed, wounded, captured/missing. Killed is an individual category. Check your own links, you are confusing killed and casualties.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Casualties means killed, wounded, captured/missing. Killed is an individual category. Check your own links, you are confusing killed and casualties.
Yeah the figures quoted for the Ulster Division deaths was 5,000 on the 1st day but was later changed to 5,000 casualties and 2,000 odd deaths on the first day of the Somme battle.
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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I see in my grandfather's discharge report that the was credited with being in two separate "Somme" battles (fights?? contacts?? attacks??). Yea, I am aware these were not the earlier, massive battle referred to as the Battle of the Somme, but found it interesting none the less:



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