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Being from the north part of the U.S. I grew up being told that he was one of the greatest men who ever lived. Not directly but you get the point. Never anything bad said about him only hero worship to the nth degree. But I am thinking different about him now. For one thing he was not a popular president back in the days that he got elected but got in by some kind of a fluke in the political system. Also, he ordered the first shots fired of the civil war when he ordered union ships to fire on fort Sumter South Carolina. In the debates between Lincoln and Douglas I thought that Douglas was the realist and was more in tuned to what the issues were about. But also just the fact that he is given this almighty super human aura by the media and historians makes me wonder about the truth of who Lincoln was. Anytime someone says someone is so great I have to catch myself and say lets looks at things closer. The old saying goes if it looks too good to be true it probably is.
Also, he ordered the first shots fired of the civil war when he ordered union ships to fire on fort Sumter South Carolina. .
Before reaching your conclusions, you might wish to read more about the actual events. You are misinformed with the above, President Lincoln dispatched an unarmed merchant vessel to bring relief supplies to Fort Sumter, not a warship. He sent written notice to the governor of South Carolina that this was only a relief ship bringing food and medical supplies. Lincoln of course was aware that the Confederate reaction to this attempt to resupply the fort might result in the rebels opening fire, thus getting the war started, but he was determined not to have the North fire the first shots.
Being from the north part of the U.S. I grew up being told that he was one of the greatest men who ever lived. Not directly but you get the point. Never anything bad said about him only hero worship to the nth degree. But I am thinking different about him now. For one thing he was not a popular president back in the days that he got elected but got in by some kind of a fluke in the political system. Also, he ordered the first shots fired of the civil war when he ordered union ships to fire on fort Sumter South Carolina. In the debates between Lincoln and Douglas I thought that Douglas was the realist and was more in tuned to what the issues were about. But also just the fact that he is given this almighty super human aura by the media and historians makes me wonder about the truth of who Lincoln was. Anytime someone says someone is so great I have to catch myself and say lets looks at things closer. The old saying goes if it looks too good to be true it probably is.
Your post is nonsense. Full of vague assertions that lack substance and require explanation.
This is a very unclever attempt at revisionism and propaganda. No doubt driven by ulterior political/racial motives.
I do. He was a tyrant who violated the Constitution repeatedly, He also totally mishandled the Civil War; a needless war which could have easily been avoided.
slavery would have run it`s course soon enuff and would not have required the loss of over 600 thousand men including dozens of my distant cousins who fill this family graveyard and most likely never ever even saw a black person much less a slave ,,my family did not die protecting slavery ,, they died defending their homes from a northern invasion .. i never saw a black person till i was 13 years old and i live in the deep south ...
Being from the north part of the U.S. I grew up being told that he was one of the greatest men who ever lived. Not directly but you get the point. Never anything bad said about him only hero worship to the nth degree. But I am thinking different about him now. For one thing he was not a popular president back in the days that he got elected but got in by some kind of a fluke in the political system. Also, he ordered the first shots fired of the civil war when he ordered union ships to fire on fort Sumter South Carolina. In the debates between Lincoln and Douglas I thought that Douglas was the realist and was more in tuned to what the issues were about. But also just the fact that he is given this almighty super human aura by the media and historians makes me wonder about the truth of who Lincoln was. Anytime someone says someone is so great I have to catch myself and say lets looks at things closer. The old saying goes if it looks too good to be true it probably is.
Surprise, surprise... the poster who can find no end of things for which to lavish praise on Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich - which he routinely depicts as an innocent victim of Anglo-American aggresson - and even the SS, also despises Abraham Lincoln.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but barring the possibility of continuing forestallment of Civil War until slavery became economically unsustainable (not likely!) most of the blame for fanning the flames lies at the doorstep of the fanatical abolitionists. (And for my money, they bear an unflattering resemblance to some of our own Social Justice Nazis).
It's generally recognized that Lincoln -- a product of the border states who sound himself in favor with a diverse coalition of advocacies -- saw preservation of the Union as his foremost concern and that, combined with strong support within the Union armies, solidified his re-election in 1864, Once war broke out, Lincoln abandoned principle and did what pragmatism and survival demanded be done. Fate didn't allow us the luxury of learning what his actions would have been upon the final cessation of hostilities, but it could hardly have turned out much worse than what actually happened.
Lincoln holds the highest position in the Pantheon of American Statesmen because in the public mindset, he preserved the Union at the cost of his own life. That statement might be subject to a lot of qualification in the academic world, but barring the emergence of some very serious new facts, it's going to hold for a very long time.
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