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Old 08-05-2021, 06:55 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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The Patriots trading Tom Brady to the Buccaneers.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:00 AM
 
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If you could change any specific events in history to make the world better today, what would you change?

(Of course everyone would reverse Jim Crow laws, slavery, etc., and all other events in history that marginalized and oppressed women and people of color.)

If I could change any specific events in history, I'd stop Austria's archduke from going to Sarajevo in 1914.

If Europe had continued down its pre-World War I course, with most of Europe slowly but surely becoming a democracy, without World War I happening, then the horrors of the 20th century could have been avoided.

Any events that you would change in history?

Thanks.
Put a bullet between the eyes of Adolf Hitler during WW1, and walk away. Even to this day, because of the Nazis in WW2, has changed the world profoundly since.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:08 AM
 
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The JFK assassination would never have happened.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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The JFK assassination would never have happened.
If Hitler was killed in WW1, would there ever have been a Kennedy as President in the first place? Perhaps not. And if so, would he have been assassinated?
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:31 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Put a bullet between the eyes of Adolf Hitler during WW1, and walk away. Even to this day, because of the Nazis in WW2, has changed the world profoundly since.
No argument against that, but I wonder if Napoleon's impact is underrated.

Without Napoleon, would the South and Central American countries have so quickly broken away from the Spanish Empire, would the United States have expanded so quickly across the continent and industrialized, would countries like Germany, Italy, and Russia have unified/expanded and so quickly industrialized?

The wars of the 1860s-1940s period, and even into the 1950s-1960s, were largely about which of the first round and second round industrializing countries would achieve hegemony.

Now in the late 1990s and into the 2000s with the globalization of industrialization and the onset of the digital era, most people today have already forgotten or by now among the young never knew who industrialized first and in another generation or two such details will be the province of specialists, and then forgotten almost completely, just like no one really knows who the first agriculturists were some 10,000 years ago; just like sands and water buried much of ancient history, so too can digitalization.

All the best!
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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No argument against that, but I wonder if Napoleon's impact is underrated.

Without Napoleon, would the South and Central American countries have so quickly broken away from the Spanish Empire, would the United States have expanded so quickly across the continent and industrialized, would countries like Germany, Italy, and Russia have unified/expanded and so quickly industrialized?

The wars of the 1860s-1940s period, and even into the 1950s-1960s, were largely about which of the first round and second round industrializing countries would achieve hegemony.

Now in the late 1990s and into the 2000s with the globalization of industrialization and the onset of the digital era, most people today have already forgotten or by now among the young never knew who industrialized first and in another generation or two such details will be the province of specialists, and then forgotten almost completely, just like no one really knows who the first agriculturists were some 10,000 years ago; just like sands and water buried much of ancient history, so too can digitalization.

All the best!
Certainly one thing leads to another. Suppose Queen Isabella never married King Ferdinand? With his relations with the Habsburgs and his connections with many elite European banks I'm convinced Spain's Empire would never have taken place.

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Old 08-05-2021, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Instead of going to war, the slaves were repatriated to Africa and their former owners compensated for their investment.
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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The further back you go in history to find an event to change, the more unpredictable the results of those changes. Some bad events contributed to positive outcomes. USSR’s invasion of Afghanistan led to Islamic terrorist in the form of Taliban and Bin Laden but it also contributed towards the downfall of USSR. What if you could get the president to take a hands off approach to Vietnam? What if USA didn’t provide support to Iraq when they started a war with Iran? What if USA was more heavy handed with the Shah of Iran when it came to human rights? What if USA had provided support to Cubans to overthrow Castro?
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Old 08-06-2021, 01:21 PM
 
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Put a bullet between the eyes of Adolf Hitler during WW1, and walk away. Even to this day, because of the Nazis in WW2, has changed the world profoundly since.


for decades before ww1 germanys industrial output was on the way to number one in the world, without the kaiser and his fascination with boats no ww1 or 2
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Put a bullet between the eyes of Adolf Hitler during WW1, and walk away. Even to this day, because of the Nazis in WW2, has changed the world profoundly since.
Would not have done any good. There were probably thousands of Adolph Hitler personalities standing in the wings of German history ready to step into the politics of post WW1 Germany. Angry, traumatized by combat and looking for scapegoats to annihilate.
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