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Old 06-11-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: North carolina
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I love those answers.
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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Just to let you know, Lincoln did not end slavery, the 13th was ratified months after his death.

In my opinion, Lincoln is credited way too much on civil rights issues.
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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I am Black myself but have a lil question for you...

Who is the true "hero" in black history? President Abraham Lincoln for ending slavery and free all those people back in 1863 or Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for continuing the Civil Rights movement and starting a new era in black history. If in fact both of them are "heroes", why do americans "only" celebrate Mr. King and not even remember the person who started it all...makes you wonder...



Perhaps Martin Luther King Jr has the slight edge, because he did not plunge the nation into a bloody civil war.

Why choose just one. Without Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr might have been a slave down south with no ability to promote civil rights.

On the other hand, Lincoln's assassin's bullet may have delayed the natural developemnt of rights for blacks, at that time, and only a Martin Luther King Jr could finish the job!!!

My answer is both. They were both martyred for others, and deserve respect!!!

We would not be where we are, if not for both contributions.

I refuse to disrespect either martyr.
That's because you only read revised versions of the history of Lincoln, what you may not know was he was not for freeing slaves in territories such as Oklahoma, his wife was a slaveholder, he was also for sending all slaves back to Africa such as Liberia, which was not financially possible and reconstruction failed eventually leading to Jim Crow which Dr. Martin Luther King defeated 100 years later. Not saying Lincoln was not a great leader, he was, however he also had his follies. Certainly different eras but King was able to win Civil Rights through nonviolence, which is a great victory and something we should channel through activism.
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:55 AM
 
Location: southern california
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the black hero is martin luther king, father of civil rights, how could it be otherwise.
lincoln was focused on the preservation of the union totally different issue.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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That's because you only read revised versions of the history of Lincoln, what you may not know was he was not for freeing slaves in territories such as Oklahoma, his wife was a slaveholder, he was also for sending all slaves .....
blah, blah, blah...here it goes....like I predicted....
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Mary Todd Lincoln never owned a slave. She came of a slave owning family in Lexington Kentucky.
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Dreaming of South Dakota!
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Personally one was a tyrant who sent millions to there death to kill and maim there brothers and the other was a womanizing alcoholic communist, so needless to say i like neither.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Personally one was a tyrant who sent millions to there death to kill and maim there brothers and the other was a womanizing alcoholic communist, so needless to say i like neither.

Millions? About 600,000 died in the War of the Rebellion not millions.

Lincoln acted properly as president in suppressing the rebellion, indeed what would one expect a president to do when faced with rebellion?
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:21 PM
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Imagine being a sailor on these ships in the early 1800's ...some credit due
African Slave Trade Patrol 1820-1861


Long illegal, the infamous slave trade was declared by Congress in 1819 to be piracy, and as such, punishable by death. The Navy's African Slave Trade Patrol was established to search for and bring to justice the dealers in human misery. Never exceeding a few ships in number, the Patrol, which from time to time included the USS Constitution,USS Constellation, USS Saratoga and USS Yorktown, relentlessly plied the waters off West Africa, South America, and the Cuban coast, a principle area for slave disembarkation. By the start of the Civil War more than 100 suspected slavers had been captured.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Dreaming of South Dakota!
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620,000 thousand its said to be, what about the hundreds of thousands that were maimed and died of disease, also the south had every right to secede it says so in the u.s constitution, this country has not been the same since that tyrant destroyed our country.

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Millions? About 600,000 died in the War of the Rebellion not millions.

Lincoln acted properly as president in suppressing the rebellion, indeed what would one expect a president to do when faced with rebellion?
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