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I have an older house that needs updating. Due to having to remodel baths and kitchen and the condition of the copper pipping we wanted to check oot the feelings about using CPVC.
Thanks for you input
Last edited by Bo; 06-30-2011 at 02:50 PM..
Reason: Moved from General US.
I replumbed my old house with CPVC. I have had two new houses since. Both were plumbed with CPVC. As far as I am concerned. its the best. However, check your city codes, some places don't allow it.
The main choices for residential are copper, CPVC, or PEX.
Professionally, I prefer copper. But it is expensive, somewhat labor intensive, and like gold to theives who steal it no sooner than you can get an inspection.
CPVC is cheap compared to copper. But it requires the same amount of labor. But, there are less tools involved and it can be done a bit faster.
PEX is a different beast all together- But I think it will be the "new standard". The benefits of Pex far out-weigh any gains from CPVC- especially because of the number of connections (escentually, for every "outlet" there are only two connections). Plumbers balk at PEX because of the tools that are needed to install- it's a onetime cost, really.
Another vote for PEX. It probably isn't going to save money over CPVC, as the drop in labor cost will be made up for by a bit more expense in materials, but if properly installed with a manifold system you'll eliminate the drop in pressure that you see in some conventionally plumbed houses. Another note is that there is less risk of joint failure, since as K'Ledge pointed out, there are only 2 connections per outlet; one at the manifold, one at the fixture.
I would avoid copper.. These shots are from a home that was brand new in 1999, major slab leaks began occurring in 2008 and the home was re-piped with CPVC.
Actually a lot of homes we repipe the copper looks like this and it is not do to flux. Have a full report from Mueller Tubing on the causes. Sulfur is one of the factors in the county water.
On what pipe to use, we have installed CPVC in homes since 1996 ( over 2300 homes) and have yet to have any issues with the exception of a nail or screw from the drywall/trim carpenters. Between 1990 and 2001 CPVC did have a exterior coating issue that has been corrected. The pipe would discolor to a deep tan color and the exterior of the pipe would become brittle but the interior would be fine.(If you need to cut just use a hacksaw blade, not the cpvc cutters to avoid splitting). I have also done the pex maniblock systems with no issues. Although the pex tubing has never been an issue, the brass fittings have been in certain areas.
Wow, must be some crazy combination of bad water and rough construction site down in FL, I have seen copper pipe from pre-WWI times in Chicago that looked like new!
Sorta weird how you can find some nutty lawyer to head up a class action suit for darned near everything these day.
With all the people that were ramping up for a rebirth in 'green' nuclear reactors until the Japanese tsunami disaster I figure I'll be able to get my next house all plumbed with custom welded titanium tubing for pennies... First in specialty welded titanium tubing, a titanium partner. (http://www.timet.com/joint.html - broken link)
Almost 100 year old house here, 1 year ago, replumbed using cpvc with no problems to report and easy enough to run.
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