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I've been looking for it since April or so because I was running out. I found some Lysol degreaser and bought it, but I prefer 409. You might also look for Fantastik if you can find it.
None of the retailers mentioned on the 409 and Clorax sites has or have had it available for months. I did just check Amazon again. It might ship at the end of the month.
i won't use chlorine or ammonia.
ugh. i can tell if they have been used in the building, i get a headache and become instantly nauseous and have to leave the building immediately. fortunately i work someplace where that does not happen often.
It's been a Clorox brand since 1969. If there was a recent change to chlorine, it's because that ingredient kills germs whereas ammonia does not. Right now, a cleaner without the ability to disinfected won't sell.
BTW, Clorox did stop producing 409 for a little while so it could concentrate it resources on manufacturing disinfectants. I'm guessing that reformulation of 409 was also a result of that.
Curious mind - why don't you want to use chlorine?
Chlorine has been used as a weapon during WWII.
You are really thinking of WWI, but that time has passed. Chlorine as used in cleaners isn't harmful when used properly. Lots of chemicals can be used as weapons, chlorine, phosgene, even water. Your water is probably disinfected with chlorine, or was in the past if your city ahs switched to chloramines.
Heck most of our useful stuff wouldn't exist without chlorine.
It's been a Clorox brand since 1969. If there was a recent change to chlorine, it's because that ingredient kills germs whereas ammonia does not. Right now, a cleaner without the ability to disinfected won't sell.
BTW, Clorox did stop producing 409 for a little while so it could concentrate it resources on manufacturing disinfectants. I'm guessing that reformulation of 409 was also a result of that.
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Chlorine has been used as a weapon during WWII.
They weaponized mustard gas, too. Do you avoid hot dogs?
Axes, sticks and stones, knives have all been used as weapons, but they are useful when handled peacefully.
They weaponized mustard gas, too. Do you avoid hot dogs?
Axes, sticks and stones, knives have all been used as weapons, but they are useful when handled peacefully.
To be fair, mustard gas was given that name because it was yellowish in color and smelled somewhat like mustard. It had nothing in common with mustard, though.
I always have a pretty good supply of things ( cleaning supplies included) but about 2 or 3 months ago I noticed that my cleaning stuff was actually getting depleted. I decided it was time to buy, so I went looking for Fantastick or 409 or Mr Clean- any of that even Target's own brand which I have used often. I was looking for cleaner WITHOUT bleach. I saw the aisles were bare. So then every time I was at the supermarket, Target, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's, I looked and again saw nothing recognizable. I did see Puracy at Target which someone had recommended so I bought it. It's pretty good.
Finally about a week ago I saw Fantastick and bought that as well. I think the cleaners are slowly getting back in stock.
Sorry about 409.
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