State Department Orders Chinese Consulate in Houston to Close (China: school, colleges)

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by elnina

I am not sure.
Maybe New Orleans?
That's per Wikipedia:
"The Bellaire Chinatown is about 12 miles (19 km) southwest of Downtown Houston. It is over 6 square miles (16 km2), making it among the largest automobile-centric Chinatowns in the Southern United States."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin...nited%20States.

New Orleans? What? Do you realize how vacant that area is? Houston’s EaDo Old Chinatown has more left of what it once had than New Orleans. I’m not only saying this out of data, I actually frequent both areas.

There isn’t a single Chinatown in the Southern United States besides Houston, unless you count Maryland as the South, but even then, Houston’s Chinatown is still bigger than Baltimore. There’s a Chinese themed plaza in places like Dallas and Atlanta but there’s no other sizable Chinatown in the Southern United States. So where you get the idea that another Chinatown in the South (Let alone NEW ORLEANS!) is beyond me.

Also, to inform you more on this, the adjacent Viet-Town (the Asian area west of the Beltway 8) isn’t included in the 6 sq miles boundaries of Chinatown. I personally don’t group Viet and Chinatown together, but it’s not uncommon to do so. If you did group them, the bounded Asiatown doubles in size.

Not only is Houston’s Chinatown the largest by far in the South, it has no competition. And if you purely speak landmass, it’s larger than even San Francisco’s per landmass. By number of Chinese or Asian businesses, it’s more competitive. And the bounded Viet-town and Chinatown is by far the largest continuous Asian area in the USA.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Anyway, it’s just a little funny how Houston ends up getting in between the China-USA drama again.

[elnina]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

New Orleans? What? Do you realize how vacant that area is? Houston’s EaDo Old Chinatown has more left of what it once had than New Orleans. I’m not only saying this out of data, I actually frequent both areas.

There isn’t a single Chinatown in the Southern United States besides Houston, unless you count Maryland as the South, but even then, Houston’s Chinatown is still bigger than Baltimore. There’s a Chinese themed plaza in places like Dallas and Atlanta but there’s no other sizable Chinatown in the Southern United States. So where you get the idea that another Chinatown in the South (Let alone NEW ORLEANS!) is beyond me.

Also, to inform you more on this, the adjacent Viet-Town (the Asian area west of the Beltway 8) isn’t included in the 6 sq miles boundaries of Chinatown. I personally don’t group Viet and Chinatown together, but it’s not uncommon to do so. If you did group them, the bounded Asiatown doubles in size.

Not only is Houston’s Chinatown the largest by far in the South, it has no competition. And if you purely speak landmass, it’s larger than even San Francisco’s per landmass. By number of Chinese or Asian businesses, it’s more competitive. And the bounded Viet-town and Chinatown is by far the largest continuous Asian area in the USA.

Ok...ok... But isn't one of the biggest in the world either.

[elnina]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Anyway, it’s just a little funny how Houston ends up getting in between the China-USA drama again.

Right. Not good on many levels.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

New Orleans? What? Do you realize how vacant that area is? Houston’s EaDo Old Chinatown has more left of what it once had than New Orleans. I’m not only saying this out of data, I actually frequent both areas.

There isn’t a single Chinatown in the Southern United States besides Houston, unless you count Maryland as the South, but even then, Houston’s Chinatown is still bigger than Baltimore. There’s a Chinese themed plaza in places like Dallas and Atlanta but there’s no other sizable Chinatown in the Southern United States. So where you get the idea that another Chinatown in the South (Let alone NEW ORLEANS!) is beyond me.

Also, to inform you more on this, the adjacent Viet-Town (the Asian area west of the Beltway 8) isn’t included in the 6 sq miles boundaries of Chinatown. I personally don’t group Viet and Chinatown together, but it’s not uncommon to do so. If you did group them, the bounded Asiatown doubles in size.

Not only is Houston’s Chinatown the largest by far in the South, it has no competition. And if you purely speak landmass, it’s larger than even San Francisco’s per landmass. By number of Chinese or Asian businesses, it’s more competitive. And the bounded Viet-town and Chinatown is by far the largest continuous Asian area in the USA.

Perhaps China might relocate the consulate to Westchase's Embassy Row once it reopens under the Biden Administration? That would be pretty close to Bellaire Blvd, unless they move it to Chinatown/Viettown itself.

Mexican consulate moving to southwest Houston to make way for downtown freeway rebuild - HoustonChronicle.com

The new consulate location adds Mexican government officials to what is by some standards the embassy row of Houston. Numerous foreign governments have consulate or embassy offices in the Westchase area near Richmond and the tollway, including Costa Rica, Honduras, Indonesia, the Phillipines and the Netherlands.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

Perhaps China might relocate the consulate to Westchase's Embassy Row once it reopens under the Biden Administration? That would be pretty close to Bellaire Blvd, unless they move it to Chinatown/Viettown itself.

Mexican consulate moving to southwest Houston to make way for downtown freeway rebuild - HoustonChronicle.com

The problem was not its location so I dont know that they would move.

Hopefully Biden will get elected and it will be allowed to return. It leaves a large swath of the country without consular services.

[BakersDozenSupply]

Something I don't understand, why do sooooo many cosulate-generals particularly operate in Houston? Obviously Houston is a very international city, but even for nations with larger communities in say Dallas, the consulate-general almost always lands in Houston.

[marksmu]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

The problem was not its location so I dont know that they would move.

Hopefully Biden will get elected and it will be allowed to return. It leaves a large swath of the country without consular services.

So - you think China should be allowed to continue to operate a consulate where they are actively spying on US interests, and stealing US intellectual property?

I can understand you hating Trump, I can understand you liking Biden - I can not understand you supporting a murderous communist regime who is actively stealing from US companies who pour Billions of dollars into creating products that bring both Jobs and Wealth to OUR country. Why is it ok for them to steal? Why is it wrong for the US to kick them out?

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[marksmu]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Oh please. Trump applauded Xi for putting Muslims in concentration camps:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...injiang-2020-6

In reality, you only care when it scores political points. Trump's boot lickers dont care when Russia or Saudi behave badly because it suites them. China is doing a lot of things wrong right now and I wont defend that, but the selective nature of who you think is bad and good is ridiculous.

You cannot defend Trump while at the same time decrying China for putting people in concentration camps. We have a lot of people from China living here. They need a consulate in this part of the country to serve them. So yeah, I hope it comes back.

My post was not in any way supportive of Trump - you are the one trying to defend an indefensible position solely because its something Trump did. Its amazing to me. Pure Trump derangement syndrome.

He is right to shut down this consulate. They were caught with their hand in the cookie jar stealing US intellectual property for the umpteenth millionth time....They got their hand slapped, and they are so arrogant, so conceited, and have paid off so many entities like the WHO, and the UN, that they know they will get away with it.

As to your other baseless accusations ...
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[elnina]

Originally Posted by marksmu

So - you think China should be allowed to continue to operate a consulate where they are actively spying on US interests, and stealing US intellectual property?

Seriously? Stealing from the thief?
This is off topic, but just that you know:
Everyone is in spying business, depending on their capacity.
Should they be allowed?

The United States is just one of many countries that have invested significant amounts of money in developing not just defences against attack, but the ability to mount damaging cyber warfare offensives.
Billions of dollars have been dedicated to the project.
High-tech espionage is rife and is done for state advantage as well as commercial and criminal gain.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/...r-superpowers/

US spies on "the entire globe", experts say.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24627187

Is that some news to you??
It describes how the United States and its allies exploited other nations' gullibility for years, taking their money and stealing their secrets.
https://thehill.com/regulation/inter...es-for-decades