“Greyhound McDonald’s” is now closed (Houston, Dallas: homes, voucher)

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The food choices in Rice Village have zero to do with the existence of Rice University, other than Rice is the owner of the land Rice Village sits on. Rice students do not walk over to Rice Village in any great number. The number of eating places ther eis driven by residents of West U, the area to the South where TMC denizens live, etc

It's an connected. The residence are drawn by the atmosphere created by the college, which is my very point for Midtown. Retail/ restaurants will not boom in Midtown because of any college, what I'm saying is the activity of the college will spark retail interest which will spark residential which will then spark the real retail.

But you are making the same mistake that Para is making by focusing too narrowly and not the big picture. If you don't like Rice as an example look at other colleges with resident students.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

But you are making the same mistake that Para is making by focusing too narrowly and not the big picture. If you don't like Rice as an example look at other colleges with resident students.

The only mistake here, is your wish for worsening the education system.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The food choices in Rice Village have zero to do with the existence of Rice University, other than Rice is the owner of the land Rice Village sits on. Rice students do not walk over to Rice Village in any great number. The number of eating places ther eis driven by residents of West U, the area to the South where TMC denizens live, etc

After you posted this, I asked people in a Rice University CS organization how often they go to Rice Village.

The answers ranged from “A few times a week” to “every other week”. “A giant ass parking lot in the middle” was one of the reasons for a student who doesn’t go often as well as improved options in TMC which is more integrated with Rice campus than Rice Village is.

Rice Village is in the least a set of option used by Rice student although TMC certainly gets more traffic from Rice.

Yes, ATA’s list was pointless, but rice village does get student traffic

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

The only mistake here, is your wish for worsening the education system.

It's a community college, it can be located anywhere in the loop and wouldn’t make any difference

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

It's a community college, it can be located anywhere in the loop and wouldn’t make any difference

This Proves my point

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

It's an connected. The residence are drawn by the atmosphere created by the college, which is my very point for Midtown. Retail/ restaurants will not boom in Midtown because of any college, what I'm saying is the activity of the college will spark retail interest which will spark residential which will then spark the real retail.

But you are making the same mistake that Para is making by focusing too narrowly and not the big picture. If you don't like Rice as an example look at other colleges with resident students.

The residents of the areas around Rice are not drawn by the atmosphere created by Rice, they are drawn by proximity to TMC, Greenway, and Downtown.

Creating a new 4 year college on the HCC Midtown campus would not draw new residents, and there's the issue of where to put HCC. The HCC location was formerly San Jacinto High School, and part of the campus was a location for the High School for Performing and Visual Arts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ja...chool_(Houston)

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The residents of the areas around Rice are not drawn by the atmosphere created by Rice, they are drawn by proximity to TMC, Greenway, and Downtown.

Creating a new 4 year college on the HCC Midtown campus would not draw new residents, and there's the issue of where to put HCC. The HCC location was formerly San Jacinto High School, and part of the campus was a location for the High School for Performing and Visual Arts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ja...chool_(Houston)

It was also where UH served its first classes.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Building has been torn down

[atadytic19]

Lol, Houston News outlets always do a half a>$ job lol
https://www.khou.com/article/news/lo...e-05198d544fc1

They really need to be careful of how they phrase things. Here again they are promoting the myth that the prison drives released prisoners to the Houston Greyhound. Again they don't release anyone to Houston. The state lets prisoners out of the gates at Huntsville (not Houston) with a bus voucher and they go where they wanna go and the person interviewed for the article helps them out from there.

This would have been a perfect opportunity to show that the city homeless strategies have severe faults. So apart from clarifying that the state doesn't actually release prisoners in Midtown Houston, they missed the ball on showing how getting rid of things isn't going to solve the problem.

From the article:

Lowery works with 7More Ministries and visits the intersection five days a week. His job is to help those released from prison get back on their feet after they’re dropped off at the Greyhound bus station across the street from McDonald's....
This whole area downtown is not the place you want to be."

With the Greyhound property up for sale, Lowery is hoping the area gets a major upgrade.

Mcdonald's said no decision has been made on what’s next for its property.

It's sorta lazy to not at least fact check your sources and have the whole city thinking that Texas's criminals are all dropped off in the heart of one city. And it's lazier to not explore the idea that the person you are interviewing may actually be the reason why the area is a war zone and the buildings are just casualties of the war.

In the end the McDonald's is already gone, the Greyhound will be gone by the end of next year, but you know what will not be gone? The charities like the one being interviewed. The church people will still be feeding the homeless underneath Pierce every morning and every evening.

Trust and believe, the vagrants will have to find another way to get to Midtown in a few years, but they WIll get there. That's where all the help is concentrated.

Getting rid of the McDonald's and Greyhound are small victories (mainly aesthetic), but the war over Midtown is far from over.

You cluster commercial buildings you get a Central Business District.
You cluster Biomedical Research you get TMC
You cluster indigent services you get homeless tent cities.

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Whereas it is now a myth, it was true in the past. About ten years ago, TDC stopped dropping off parolees there. Prior to that, they would dump about 40 per day! What happens now is prisoners get a voucher when they are released that can take them anywhere in Texas, and some still choose Houston when they have no where else to go.

I live less than 1.5 miles from there, and through the years, I have had a handful of convicts pass by my house and asked if I needed help with landscaping, or remodel, and all five were honest and told me they just got out of prison. I never took them up, but I guess they did not want any problems and were truthful up front.

And you are correct about the facilities for these, and other vulnerable people, even a couple of "secret" women's shelters in and around Midtown/Montrose. If you do not live in Montrose, you'd never know. It is ticking up again... some centers have shutdown, but the homelessness problem is growing.