Does this even exist? (Help finding a place to live)

[harry chickpea]

Originally Posted by writerwife

Well... sorry to have started ww3. I knew when the housing situation burst on the scene the costs when up but just wasn't quite sure where since it doesn't seem to be an issue lower down the tree production line, so to speak.



To GreggT..... Mr. Chickpea is a moderator I believe.

I used to be a moderator. I still have a dislike for spin, but I'll let people do their own research on the subject of lumber. I said what I knew, and I stand by the insect invasion scenario, as that came direct from multiple reliable sources.

[johnsonkk]

Originally Posted by harry chickpea

I used to be a moderator. I still have a dislike for spin, but I'll let people do their own research on the subject of lumber. I said what I knew, and I stand by the insect invasion scenario, as that came direct from multiple reliable sources.

Care to post any of the reliable sources?

I bought a pallet of shiplap prior to Covid and next to the pallet was a damaged pallet of pine. The employee said it was damaged pine from insect damage. I said “too bad” and she said oh no, it’s worth double what you’re paying for your pallet. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

[harry chickpea]

Originally Posted by johnsonkk

Care to post any of the reliable sources?

I bought a pallet of shiplap prior to Covid and next to the pallet was a damaged pallet of pine. The employee said it was damaged pine from insect damage. I said “too bad” and she said oh no, it’s worth double what you’re paying for your pallet. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

Just one:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...ortage/618727/

Or another:

https://fortune.com/2021/07/02/briti...lumber-prices/

There are plenty of others. I had many close conversations with a noted forester in Vermont about how Canadian timber and the tariffs affected railroads and the development in the northeast and Boston market. I even wrote a book about one aspect of that whole world. I have a passing interest in what goes on, and the historical chops to understand.

Look. I don't care if people believe Santa Claus is the tooth fairy in disguise. I don't care if Ayn Rand is Spiderman. I do think that people who have zero knowledge and spout off nonsense to promote a particular political agenda do not get a pass.

[Southlander]

On the issue of lumber prices, we own a wood shop producing crates and boxes for local industries.
There are a lot of reasons for the increase in the price of lumber, according to or local sawmill owners and our plywood/particleboard broker.. Demand, certainly.
Other reasons: we've had long periods of rain, which make it difficult for heavy equipment to be taken out into forests to harvest lumber.
During the pandemic, a number of plywood and particleboard plants shut down entirely, laying off workers, who had to go out and find other jobs. A number of those plants will NEVER reopen. A with free government money, workers are reluctant to sign up again for difficult jobs that don't have a fantastic pay scale.
Lumber prices increased all during 2021, with a brief steady period in November-December.
Now prices are rising again. We just paid $72.50 a sheet for a few sheets of AC plywood. When we buy by the truckload, we're paying quadruple the rate we paid when I first came to work here in 2015.
We also use heat-treated pine due to the aforesaid insect invasion. That adds to the cost of wood.