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The US already offers family "chain" immigration for siblings, parents, adult children, etc. US residents and naturalized citizens from Mexico, China, India, and the Philippines already complain bitterly about the time restrictions imposed on them because of yearly quotas for those visas, i.e. only so many are handed out each year so nationals of certain countries in certain categories can wait over 20 years for a visa.
I say "oh well."
In fact I say why not get rid of it altogether? We are one of the only nations on earth that allows this degree of "family reunification." I say we should restrict family-based immigration to minor children and spouses only.
In fact I say why not get rid of it altogether? We are one of the only nations on earth that allows this degree of "family reunification." I say we should restrict family-based immigration to minor children and spouses only.
Restricting family based immigration to immediate family only I do agree with, for all. It's the definition of "immediate family" that needs to be redefined.
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All questions of amnesty aside, you can't have degrees of citizen/resident rights.
Apart from having to be native born to run for POTUS, all naturalised citizens have the same rights as native born US citizens.
Think about it, if you're going to be a second class citizen, why bother?
Fwiw, most of these illegals have neither the desire nor the inclination to become citizens, hell they don't really even want to be LEGAL with all the responsibilities that entails.
What they really want is the RIGHT to be here and remain illegal.
They've got it made this way and they know it. Why change now?
The last amnesty bill allowed way too many with the extended provision.
Even the government was surprised and the number of actual far exceeded their projections.
Then define immediate family..to some outside of this country immediate family consists of several generations plus their families all living under one roof. It's not the same definition as held here in the US where the family unit is much smaller.
The last amnesty bill allowed way too many with the extended provision.
Even the government was surprised and the number of actual far exceeded their projections.
Then define immediate family..to some outside of this country immediate family consists of several generations plus their families all living under one roof. It's not the same definition as held here in the US where the family unit is much smaller.
It should be USA rules so USA definition - stop the stupidity of 25 cousins 3 times removed being regarded as "immediate family", but wait for the outcry from those that have been benefiting from that loose definition.
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I completely agree. To allow a whole village access to our social service network via one person is madness.
This is nothing new.
We can't prove now, that they are who they say they are. They can say that they're related to the Mexican Military and that makes them elgible to move here.
It looks like the 'open border' people are missing the point of the thread and can't/won't/do not want to grasp the concept of 'mass numbers'.
Having a few hundred or even a few thousand people from other countries who legally went through the process of becoming legal residents each year and bringing their family members to the U.S. is not a big deal and are easily absorbed in U.S. communities.
Almost all of the over 12 million illegals in the U.S. are from Mexico [population 111 million] Over 10% of them. After getting amnesty for breaking U.S. laws, they would be permitted to bring an additional 50 million [that's 50 with six zeros] family members who are uneducated, unemployed and don't speak English who will need housing, employment, education and health care.
Since 12 million is 4% of 310 million, can a town of 25,000 with 1000 illegals handle an additional 4000 people? Can an area like Los Angeles handle an additional 1,120,000 people? The ' they only want a better life' excuse doesn't cut it. There are way too many deserving American citizens that want a better life. And before some of you pull the race card, we also couldn't handle 50 million more people if they were coming from Scotland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland or Canada.
And a btw- If immigrants were always allowed to have 'family unification' why was the provision repeated in the amnesty bill?
Maybe I'm totally naive and couldn't possibly believe that democrats are trolling for new voters.
Someone posted on another board that the government says each amnestied couple has the potential to bring in up to 90 (yes, ninety) additional family members. When you consider parents, siblings, their wives, and children, aunts, uncles, and their offspring, it could easily reach 90.
Deep inside the last 'amnesty' bill was a provision that would have allowed illegals who went through the process of becoming legal, to bring a wife, husband, kids, mother, father, uncle, aunts, cousins legally into the U.S.
We're told that there are 12 million illegals in the U.S. If the 'family' provision remains in a new bill, it means that if a new 'legal' brings a minimum of four people, it will increase the population by 48 million.
Where are 48 million people supposed to live? Where is the housing for them?
How much tax payer dollars [that we don't have] will have to be spent for new schools?
Where are the 48 million jobs for them or will they be 48 million more welfare/medicare recipients?
How many will get free haelth care? Can our health care system handle 48 million more people?
How many of the 48 million be unlicensed/uninsured drivers on our highways?
How many will resort to criminal activities?
How many will learn to speak English?
If there is another 'amnesty' bill, the 'family' provision should NOT be included.
Like all the other false reports this is not true !
There are more like 30 million illegals , the 12 million are probably just the muslims who are coming in through borders, education grants, vacation overstays , temp jobs ,etc,ect. .
Aall will bring in chain families . Chain migration is like anchor babies .
It will bring in more than a hundred million new democrat voters . American's vote will never count again .
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Like all the other false reports this is not true !
There are more like 30 million illegals , the 12 million are probably just the muslims who are coming in through borders, education grants, vacation overstays , temp jobs ,etc,ect. .
Aall will bring in chain families . Chain migration is like anchor babies .
It will bring in more than a hundred million new democrat voters . American's vote will never count again .
They were saying there were 11 million back in the early 90's.
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