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This part of the reponse from Gov. Brewer was great:
“The irony is that President Obama’s Administration has chosen to sue Arizona for helping to enforce federal immigration law and not sue local governments that have adopted a patchwork of ‘sanctuary’ policies that directly violate federal law. These patchwork local ‘sanctuary’ policies instruct the police not to cooperate with federal immigration officials."
This is more a political move than anything else. Its to pander to the hispanic voters. Oddly enough all the racial profiling rhetoric is actually absent from the law suit. Could it be that the Obama admin misrepresented this to begin with?
Have you all ever heard the phrase "The right thing, the wrong way"?
Some of you may be hungry for serious reform of illegal immigration laws and/or enforcement of existing laws, but keep in mind that the ends do not always justify the means and there are actions taken that are worse than doing nothing!
So if Arizona's law is ruled unconstitutional and the state is reeling from legal fees, don't criticize Obama or the federal government. Criticize Arizona and the politicians who created and supported the law. They had the responsibility of creating a working policy, and if the bill fails, it is their fault, not the feds' fault. Say "I am against illegal immigration, but these guys did a terrible thing. They did the right thing the wrong way."
Obama and his merry band of democrats must actually be proud that Phoenix is now the kidnapping capital of the world - second ONLY to much larger Mexico City. The federal government sits by and does absolutely nothing about that.
Obama and his merry band of democrats must actually be proud that Phoenix is now the kidnapping capital of the world - second ONLY to much larger Mexico City. The federal government sits by and does absolutely nothing about that.
So if the actual crime is the problem, maybe Arizona should form a state police organization like the Texas Rangers. No, really, the Texas Rangers has a broad array of powers, and it is an effective organization. Instead of a quixotic SB 1070, if kidnapping is the problem, an Arizona State Rangers could do the trick.
In regards to illegal immigration itself, there are other measures (like those taken by Massachusetts)
Also did the kidnappings increase under the Obama administration, or did they stay the same, or did they decrease?
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This is more a political move than anything else. Its to pander to the hispanic voters. Oddly enough all the racial profiling rhetoric is actually absent from the law suit. Could it be that the Obama admin misrepresented this to begin with?
The federal government has no need to file lawsuits in order to pander to Hispanics. Fancy speeches pander to people. Lawsuits show a legitimate concern taken by the federal government; the feds would not have cooked up a frivolous lawsuit addressing SB 1070, as the courts would strike down the legal challenge easily.
So if the actual crime is the problem, maybe Arizona should form a state police organization like the Texas Rangers. No, really, the Texas Rangers has a broad array of powers, and it is an effective organization. Instead of a quixotic SB 1070, if kidnapping is the problem, an Arizona State Rangers could do the trick.
No they can't. Not according to the Obama government -- drug traffickers are breaking federal laws and they are generally illegals too. Kidnapping for ransom in Phoenix, the kidnapping capital of the world second only to huge Mexico City involves foreigners and Obama is saying that foreign interests trump the interests of American citizens.
If Arizona can't enforce one federal law, it can't enforce others. Obama intends to do nothing about the crime situation which is quickly getting out of control. And he intends to make sure no state does anything about the crime situation either.
Also did the kidnappings increase under the Obama administration, or did they stay the same, or did they decrease?
The federal government has no need to file lawsuits in order to pander to Hispanics. Fancy speeches pander to people. Lawsuits show a legitimate concern taken by the federal government; the feds would not have cooked up a frivolous lawsuit addressing SB 1070, as the courts would strike down the legal challenge easily.
The kidnappings are increasing because they are very closely connected to the breakdown of law and order in Mexico and the situation in Mexico is becoming very serious and is now spilling over into the USA.
Obama's administration (like Bush's) is pandering to the Mexican government and to the internationalists. It may be after votes also, but I don't believe votes are the main thing. It's the money. If the Mexican government doesn't get what it wants and internationalism breaks down, then Walmart, the Bank of America and so on might not get their way in Mexico. These are all part of deals that have been made.
No they can't. Not according to the Obama government -- drug traffickers are breaking federal laws and they are generally illegals too. Kidnapping for ransom in Phoenix, the kidnapping capital of the world second only to huge Mexico City involves foreigners and Obama is saying that foreign interests trump the interests of American citizens.
If Arizona can't enforce one federal law, it can't enforce others. Obama intends to do nothing about the crime situation which is quickly getting out of control. And he intends to make sure no state does anything about the crime situation either.
The Obama administration has not filed a lawsuit against the State of Texas for allowing the Texas Rangers to exist. Yes, drug traffickers do break federal laws, but obviously they break state laws too.
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The Obama administration has not filed a lawsuit against the State of Texas for allowing the Texas Rangers to exist. Yes, drug traffickers do break federal laws, but obviously they break state laws too.
Your trying to steer this topic off of the main issue.
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