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Old 07-12-2010, 01:45 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Even in California? Good god, that state needs to just disappear.

It's well known that inmates condones anyone who was convicted of harming children.

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Oh, the irony.


I'm shocked and appalled. I expect better from the big three. Oh, wait...hahaha.
Am I to understand that you believe that prision inmates condone child molesters[not this specific individual in the piece]...?
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:52 AM
 
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Am I to understand that you believe that prision inmates condone child molesters[not this specific individual in the piece]...?
Yep.

Ask any incarcerated person, and they will tell you they will beat/kill child molesters without batting an eyelash.
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:21 AM
 
Location: California
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The money was for his care, he personally doesn't profit but someone is going to have to take care of him now...someone who DIDN'T molest a child or do anything wrong. We could just have put him in a lifelong care facility, but then someone would still have to pay THEM. Bottom line, money has to come from somewhere.

But yes, it's all over the freaking internet as some kind of "look what OBAMA did now!" propaganda piece. You really can't respect that.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:11 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Yep.

Ask any incarcerated person, and they will tell you they will beat/kill child molesters without batting an eyelash.
I guess i was thrown by your meaning using the word Condone...

con·done : to regard or treat (something bad or blameworthy) as acceptable, forgivable, or harmless


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It's well known that inmates condones anyone who was convicted of harming children.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I repeat; this story was posted previously on this forum. My outrage is neither selective nor timed, so you can save your comments for another poster. Click the following link, and do note the date.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/illeg...-gets-4-a.html
The selective comment was to the reasons for it being brought up yesterday on many blogs and by the OP here.
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One of the things, i have not found, is the reasons for the reduced charges.

Usually prosecutors will not back down on alleged child molestation charges unless there is a really weak case (simply translated - it didn't happen). Then they will present a less charge to save face. Usually a defendant has no choice, since, a conviction, correct or wrong means life in prison, guilty to a less charge, in this case, gets you out and deported in a short time.
I'm sure his court appointed legal counsel would also go for the less.

Prosecutors hate to lose any cases (and high profile cases can make or brake a lawyer), so they will take any win, even if it means locking up someone innocent.

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Old 07-13-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The selective comment was to the reasons for it being brought up yesterday on many blogs and by the OP here.
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One of the things, i have not found, is the reasons for the reduced charges.

Usually prosecutors will not back down on alleged child molestation charges unless there is a really weak case (simply translated - it didn't happen). Then they will present a less charge to save face. Usually a defendant has no choice, since, a conviction, correct or wrong means life in prison, guilty to a less charge, in this case, gets you out and deported in a short time.
I'm sure his court appointed legal counsel would also go for the less.

Prosecutors hate to lose any cases (and high profile cases can make or brake a lawyer), so they will take any win, even if it means locking up someone innocent.
Thanks for the clarification. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: People's Republic of California
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Even in California? Good god, that state needs to just disappear.

I live in Sacramento where most of the idiot politicians are. If I have to go down with this ship, if it's for the good of our country, then so be it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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You are aware that Orange County is very conservative, Republican territory, right?

A more objective source:

Beatings reveal vulnerability of O.C. jails' child-sex suspects

"Ramirez's family was not told of the attack, a violation of a Sheriff's Department policy that requires notification of life-threatening injuries. Department spokesman Jim Amormino said jail supervisors might not have realized the extent of Ramirez's injuries.


The family learned that Ramirez was hospitalized when they made inquiries after attending two court dates in which he failed to appear. On June 9, the Sheriff's Department told them he was being held in a hospital jail ward, Narbey Ramirez said.
The family made repeated trips to the hospital but were turned away by deputies until they obtained a court order on June 23 and were allowed to visit Ramirez for 15 minutes, Narbey Ramirez said.

Amormino said a jail supervisor had approved family visitation rights from the start of Ramirez's hospitalization and that he did not know why deputies didn't carry that order out.

Narbey Ramirez said her brother was in bad shape. "It was like he was a corpse," she said. The whites of his eyes had turned purple, and he was bruised from head to toe. He had a broken arm. The doctors said he had suffered damage to his brain stem, she said."

Oh, and Patricia Bates, the Supervisor of the Orange County Board of Supervisors (the entity that made this award) is a Republican.
You are aware that there really is no such thing as a conservative in CA, right? I was born and raised in that mess and I know very well that they don't walk the walk. The governor is a prime example.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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ou are aware that there really is no such thing as a conservative in CA, right? I was born and raised in that mess and I know very well that they don't walk the walk. The governor is a prime example.
Tell that to Dana Rohrabacher.

No one who voted for Schwarzenegger thought he was a conservative.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: over the rainbow
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its his own fault why protect him.....
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