Number of Illegals Down - Except in Texas (illegal immigration, law, Mexico)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein."
ALL persons.
Just curious, do You think its right that a illegal Criminal sneaks into our country & gives birth to a child, and then that he/she should automatically become a citizen? Dont you think that rewards them? Isnt that the same as me entering your home, and if you dont catch me sneaking in your unlocked door, then I get to stay forever? Do you also know that some of these "moms" leave their other children at home, then use the golden child to stay here & get freebies? Some send for the others, but some dont. So for the peeps saying its unfair to punish the "citizen" child, I think its worse for the poor babies left without a mom. The thing that needs to be done, is for the 14th to state any child born here by a Citizen....I'm sure thats what they meant, but how were they to see this problem coming? You cant state what you would never even dream of happening...
Just curious, do You think its right that a illegal Criminal sneaks into our country & gives birth to a child, and then that he/she should automatically become a citizen? Dont you think that rewards them? Isnt that the same as me entering your home, and if you dont catch me sneaking in your unlocked door, then I get to stay forever? Do you also know that some of these "moms" leave their other children at home, then use the golden child to stay here & get freebies? Some send for the others, but some dont. So for the peeps saying its unfair to punish the "citizen" child, I think its worse for the poor babies left without a mom. The thing that needs to be done, is for the 14th to state any child born here by a Citizen....I'm sure thats what they meant, but how were they to see this problem coming? You cant state what you would never even dream of happening...
I simply just restated what was written in the constitution, that's all. Nothing more or less. They weren't really ambiguous in the writing of the 14th amendment.
As for your analogy of a house, I really don't get it. It doesn't make sense.
I'm surprised they think it's only 200,000 -- in the part of Texas I'm in, they're pouring over the border by the tens of thousands. New Mexico is getting a big surge also.
Maybe 200,000 in Dallas County alone.
If anything I am seeing more illegals and hearing more Spanish than ever before.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein."
ALL persons.
Your clue is "AND subject to the jurisdiction therof". Illegal alien parents nor their offspring are subject to our jurisdiction.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein."
ALL persons.
Benicar beat me to it.
The illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of our united states because they did not agree to do so.
legal residents who come here on a green card agree to be subject to our jurisdiction and agree to be jailed here if they mess up. Their kids who are born here are citizens. Legal residents who break the law here are usually jailed here. illegals or people on temporary visas who come here and break the law are supposed to be deported.
The law is supposed to be read in context and you are supposed to pay careful attention to ands, ifs, or's etc.
its states clearly that the formula is
born or naturalized + subject to our jurisdiction = citizenship
Benicar beat me to it.
The illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of our united states because they did not agree to do so.
legal residents who come here on a green card agree to be subject to our jurisdiction and agree to be jailed here if they mess up. Their kids who are born here are citizens. Legal residents who break the law here are usually jailed here. illegals or people on temporary visas who come here and break the law are supposed to be deported.
The law is supposed to be read in context and you are supposed to pay careful attention to ands, ifs, or's etc.
its states clearly that the formula is
born or naturalized + subject to our jurisdiction = citizenship
Actually, it really does depend on what you mean. The courts appear to recognize the fact that they are subject to laws of the local jurisdiction. There are illegal immigrants in jail, thus subject to the jurisdiction they reside in. Diplomats, as Benicar rightly pointed out, have immunity.
The original intent was concerning slaves (which were technically not naturalized or citizens, but subject to the laws of the jurisdictions they resided in). Policy makers take this definition as the interpretation of the law (for better or worse).
So would you favor a resolution like H.R. 1868 as proposed by Rep. Gingrey?
Actually, it really does depend on what you mean. The courts appear to recognize the fact that they are subject to laws of the local jurisdiction. There are illegal immigrants in jail, thus subject to the jurisdiction they reside in. Diplomats, as Benicar rightly pointed out, have immunity.
The original intent was concerning slaves (which were technically not naturalized or citizens, but subject to the laws of the jurisdictions they resided in). Policy makers take this definition as the interpretation of the law (for better or worse).
So would you favor a resolution like H.R. 1868 as proposed by Rep. Gingrey?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
