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Old 12-09-2010, 02:00 PM
 
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So it isn't possible for any Hispanic to not be a racist, ethnocentric?
Your arguments are weak. I've never claimed that anyone who has a different view on this issue is a racist. On the contrary, your side of the debate calls any Latino who has a different view from the hardline deport all them crowd racist. If you accuse others of being racist, the natural reaction is for them to hurl racism right back at you.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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Your arguments are weak. I've never claimed that anyone who has a different view on this issue is a racist. On the contrary, your side of the debate calls any Latino who has a different view from the hardline deport all them crowd racist. If you accuse others of being racist, the natural reaction is for them to hurl racism right back at you.
I never said you called anyone opposed to illegal immigration, a racist. You tell me why then is it mostly Hispanics who are illegal alien advocates if there isn't a tinge of ethnocentricism to it. You tell me why then it is mostly Hispanics who call anti-illegals racists, nativists, bigots and xenophobes.

It is refreshing to hear that there is a group of Hispanics out there who put the rule of law above their own ethnic kind. In most Hispanic circles they would be called "vendidos" and "coconuts" and you know that. You proved it by your remark that they must be being paid by FAIR.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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I never said you called anyone opposed to illegal immigration, a racist. You tell me why then is it mostly Hispanics who are illegal alien advocates if there isn't a tinge of ethnocentricism to it. You tell me why then it is mostly Hispanics who call anti-illegals racists, nativists, bigots and xenophobes.

It is refreshing to hear that there is a group of Hispanics out there who put the rule of law above their own ethnic kind. In most Hispanic circles they would be called "vendidos" and "coconuts" and you know that. You proved it by your remark that they must be being paid by FAIR.
But they are.

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FAIR front group, Progressives for Immigration Reform (PFIR), is continuing to assert itself into mainstream discourse. The John Tanton network of anti-immigrant groups have a long history of trying to hoodwink the public, so it comes as no surprise that they started an organization of fake progressives. The lame-duck group just released a “study” on self-identified liberals’ feelings on immigration
What is So Progressive About ‘Progressives for Immigration Reform’? Um, Nothing. | IMAGINE 2050
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Latino leaders in what?LOL



These guys are bought for and paid for by FAIR.
As opposed to being bought and paid for by La Raza or the SEIU?

Or, are you suggesting Hispanics can’t oppose the DREAM Act or illegal immigration?
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Another thread derailment?
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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So what? That doesn't mean that these Hispanics don't genuinely feel in their hearts that rewarding illlegal aliens is wrong for our country, does it?
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Pa
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So what? That doesn't mean that these Hispanics don't genuinely feel in their hearts that rewarding illlegal aliens is wrong for our country, does it?
Common sense tells most of us that rewarding bad behavior only reenforces that behavior.
I find it odd that anyone would think that no hispanics are capable of common sense.
You will always have those who will disregard conventional wisdom in favor of personal gain. They don't care that it hurts the nation as a whole as long as their friends or family members get a free pass.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Common sense tells most of us that rewarding bad behavior only reenforces that behavior.
I find it odd that anyone would think that no hispanics are capable of common sense.
You will always have those who will disregard conventional wisdom in favor of personal gain. They don't care that it hurts the nation as a whole as long as their friends or family members get a free pass.
Actually, that’s an insult to Hispanics. The implication being, that Hispanics are sheeple, or incapable of critical thinking. Newsflash, blacknight: Hispanics do oppose illegal immigration and the Nightmare Act. Deal with it.
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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Actually, that’s an insult to Hispanics. The implication being, that Hispanics are sheeple, or incapable of critical thinking. Newsflash, blacknight: Hispanics do oppose illegal immigration and the Nightmare Act. Deal with it.
Almost everyone i know opposes illegal immigration and i'll admit that not every Hispanic will have the same view concerning this issue. Now, can you admit to yourself that not all Americans share your point of view concerning this issue?
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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How can this be? I thought only anti-Hispanic/Mexican/Latino nativists, racists, and xenophobes oppose the DREAM Act and illegal immigration.


Latino Leaders Meet to Oppose DREAM Act
They are as stupid as the Republicans. How in the hell are you going to blame some kid that had NO say so in being brought over here maybe when he or she was an infant? Are you going to send them to Mexico where they probably do not even know the language? I hope the Republicans do oppose it though because it will be one more nail in their coffin as the demographics change more in coming years.
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