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...Walked to school in the snow, uphill both ways, I know...
I'm really interested in your elaboration of the "citizenship papers", and identifying that your ancestors (all of them) came "legally". Did they come with the advance permission of the United States? The origin of the Italian-American slur "WOP" came from "WithOut Papers", meaning that the Italians often just arrived here.
Sure, let's have the strictest laws, which would have prevented most of that immigration in the past. Once those people become our citizens, they are our problem to deal with, we can't pass them off elsewhere. Too bad we don't have enough of that moxie your Italians ancestors did, getting to work (in English) when it was tough times.
Difference back then, those who wanted to come to America for a better life, believed in doing it legally. No one said it was easy for these people, you have a year, i can tell you some stories, not so nice. They were not treated nice, i have plenty of stories i can tell, but they worked thru the problems and the heartaches. They beleived in hard work, and believe me hard work they did.
Did matter, because of all that hard work, i mean working 3 jobs to make a living, it most certainly paid off. And they learned English, and their children only spoke English in the home and in school. If they could teach their children English, so could those who come here illegally, isn't that the least they can do. People don't look at this Country the same anymore, sorry but they do not, coming here illegally, is that respecing the US.
Just maybe way back then, the laws did not have to be that strict, because those who dreamt of being an American Citizen, came here legally, as hard as it was, no one said anything worth fighting for is easy, it was not, have a year, as i say, i could tell ya some stories.
And are you calling my Great Grandparents liars, because if you are, you know nothing at all, of course they came here legally, it was not easy but anything worth fighting for, is worth the wait.
Last edited by california-jewel; 07-21-2011 at 03:45 AM..
...Walked to school in the snow, uphill both ways, I know...
I'm really interested in your elaboration of the "citizenship papers", and identifying that your ancestors (all of them) came "legally". Did they come with the advance permission of the United States? The origin of the Italian-American slur "WOP" came from "WithOut Papers", meaning that the Italians often just arrived here.
Sure, let's have the strictest laws, which would have prevented most of that immigration in the past. Once those people become our citizens, they are our problem to deal with, we can't pass them off elsewhere. Too bad we don't have enough of that moxie your Italians ancestors did, getting to work (in English) when it was tough times.
What do you want to see my great grandparents, papers, they have them i have seen them, and are you calling me a liar. Well gees let me put it to ya this way, if i have seen their papers, they must of had permission, ya think! Your wrong, Italians did not just arrive here, they came here legally, with the likes of my Great Grandparents. Sorry charlie, People were different back then, they actually respected the US, and wanted to be citizens, unlike what we have invading this Country today, ILLEGALS?
And as long as it may have taken to get their Papers, it was well worth all the hard work. Most people back then, were different no matter what Country they came here from, they did not beleive back then in just breaking the laws, and demanding things from our Government, did not work that way back then. And no one is saying that things happened overnight, because you know darn well that they did not. Rome was not built in a day you know?
Che ne pensate che siete?
Last edited by california-jewel; 07-21-2011 at 04:12 AM..
This country was built on immigrants and those with such a zest for deportation might not have been able to make their argument as American citizens if it weren't for their illegal immigrant ancestors. We truly have bigger fish to fry than worrying about this topic.
Well gees, maybe this means, the English Language, is no longer respected, ya think?
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
You know what exactly what that means.
English is no longer respected in this country by foreigners.
I don't know what it means because to "demonize" or "disrespect" a language is an almost non sensical, purely emotive meaning. How can one disrespect a language? I say almost because the few cases I have seen of widespread "demonization" of a language comes from Turkey and the Kurdish language where actual slurs and biological essentialism are used to convey degradation on a wide scale.
I assume what you mean is language adoption which is misguided given the cross generational statistics of immigrants and language adoption.
Last edited by VerticalReasoning; 07-21-2011 at 09:05 AM..
I don't know what it means because to "demonize" or "disrespect" a language is an almost non sensical, purely emotive meaning. How can one disrespect a language? I say almost because the few cases I have seen of widespread "demonization" of a language comes from Turkey and the Kurdish language where actual slurs and biological essentialism are used to convey degradation on a wide scale.
I assume what you mean is language adoption which is misguided given the cross generational statistics of immigrants and language adoption.
I don't know if you saw the post.
There was one hispanic who was in the country 20+ years and in front of congress he wanted to speak in Spanish. He knew English but wanted to speak in Spanish.
The congressman called him disrespectful.
That is one example.
Last edited by All American NYC; 07-21-2011 at 09:50 AM..
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